Help with building new computer.
August 8th, 2016
Anyhow, I want to get back into gaming with the PC. PS3 is great but at the same time I can’t stand the garbage that is sometimes created then sold at �40+. PC makes life simple. PC is cheaper in the long run, and everything can be upgraded.
Im looking at a budget of around �700 without a monitor. Any suggestions?
Like I said, I would like it to play games with max graphic capabilities. Would like it to play Crysis on high settings if you get my drift..
If anyone could help, I would really appreciate it.
Thanks, take care.
Anyone help, please?
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^ Ok mate, no worries.
sure, ill help. PLEASE CORRECT ME IF IM WRONG.
get a gtx 260-$220
i7 860-$280
CORSAIR CMPSU-850TX 850W-110 Western Digital RE3 WD1002FBYS 1TB 7200 RPM 32MB-$160
4gb ddr3 1600-$75
4gb ddr3 1600-$75
This way you have 8gb… its more expensive to buy 1 package that has 8gb
you want a a motherboard that support intel processors, ddr3 1600 ram, and 16gb of ram. You won’t need a built on graphics card because you already buying one.
i’m not sure what case or monitor(OOPS thought you wanted a monitor ). you need to tell me what your looking for on your case.
you want a 7200 rpm and 32 mb cache atleast, or more obviously.
i will keep on helping and editing my post.
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your too good:(
is that current though?
Yes.
wouldn’t you want a 32mb cache hard drive tho?
Thanks for input. I can’t load the image you have put up at the moment as I’m downloading.
Its insanely late in UK so im heading to sleep now but I will make sure to comment this the moment I get up.
And , I don’t really have knowledge in terms of hardware, rather software. I would prefer a case that keeps the inside.. cool? Dont necessarily want everything crammed in.
Anyhow will give it a proper read through in 5-6 hours, make sure to check back. Thanks again, and I will check the image in morning .
Take care.
EDIT: And as I don’t have great knowledge in the hardware aspect, could you tell me why I should buy the components.
The work won’t go unnoticed I can guarantee, im relying on the feedback to determine what I will purchase! Thanks again.
okay, well i have built 1 computer, and have no doubt that knows X5 the ammount of knowledge about computers than me, but first, some of my parts are the prices after mail in rebates. Also, do you want a case that looks cool? Side view? Like cooler master cases are as guessed, really cool, but for me i dont like how they look. And do you care about size? Mid tower cases are pretty good, and full towers are huge. I would try to get 8gb’s if you can obviously, and try to get 32mb cache like i said, but ‘s hard drive might be better. I’m not exactly sure which is better, the 4890 or the gtx 260, but i’ve heard great reviews for the 4890 so i would stick to it. And the only thing i would change about ‘s parts are the hard drive, but hes already a little bit over your price range, but his parts are really good for the price. A little info about processors though, i7’s are currently the best processors for consumers out.
Calum, you should be fine if you go with this rig. You’ll get an awesome computer out of this.
Yeah. That’s a reasonably good rig you got there.
Insanely expensive!
This would be capable of running “todays games” ? (Mass Effect 2, Left 4 Dead 2 that sorta thing)
I don’t really know what each component does, how it is better then others, Im fine with purchasing the parts but I want to know if the overall computer will be great and last a long time considering the price?
You could balance the PC a lot better with �700. Going for an i7 is too expensive at the expensive of graphics with a budget like that.
Something like this…
im with because i like his corsair, i dont trust coolermaster, and i like intel even though my own built computer is amd, and he has a faster dvd drive However the 5850 is better than the 5770 and it depends whether you want a better processor or a better graphics card, or do you prefer intel or amd? I’ve heard intel is better, and is cheaper, but i personally disagree about the cheaper part..
I’m with here, a HD5850 is far more powerful than a HD5770. What he put together looks more balanced to me.
got a good one on the first offer
.....I did a bit of research on the 700W unit before buying it myself and it did very well in reviews. Comes with all the top-notch protections and with a single, large 12V rail as well as being modular. For the crazy mad overclocker, they won’t like it as much as it has more ripple but for the average gamer who isn’t trying to get a world record, they won’t notice.
The Intel is faster at most things but games aren’t one of them. I decided that the slight speed drop in encoding isn’t going to bother the OP. Intel certainly isn’t cheaper than AMD when you compare the price to performance although they are closing the gap.
I'm with here, a HD5850 is far more powerful than a HD5770. What he put together looks more balanced to me.*hug*
I’ve never really liked the idea of overclocking a PC.
So much information to consider let alone different components. All are good, im thinking ‘s first image but with an i5 not i7? Any other suggestions?
Thanks everyone who is helping, do appreciate it. <3
EDIT: Anyone have an opinion on this?
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=FS-062-OE&tool=3
With GTX 260 and 8gb memory?
Reviews said that games were easily playable on high, games like GTA 4 are what im looking at to play. Any thoughts on that as well?
Well you can get a much better system for the same price as we’ve shown. The nvidia 200 series are old tech now and not worth buying and while 8GB of RAM sounds nice, do you really need it? You can always live with 4 and then upgrade with another 4 when prices have come down a bit more.
As for going for ‘s build, why? What makes you want to pick that one over the one I suggested? The 5850 is significantly better than the 5770 when it comes to games (assuming you’re running at 1680×1050 or above) and every review has shown that the difference between the i5 and Phenom 2 is negligible.
I didn’t know that, like I explained at the start I’ve never spent the time in learning about the hardware side to a computer. Im trying though.
And yes, your list is excellent!
Ah I see, well I shall give you a bit more of a background then.
The nvidia 200 series is currently EOL and no longer being produced. This was announced Q3ish last year and around the same time, ATi released their 5000 series. The 5000 series are DirectX 11 compatible and as benchmarks have shown, very well performing in games with a reasonable price tag. nvidia are set to release their next generation of cards (300 series, FERMI), in Q1/2 of this year however without any early benchmarks, many people are unsure whether to wait or not.
Well you can get a much better system for the same price as we've shown. The nvidia 200 series are old tech now and not worth buying and while 8GB of RAM sounds nice, do you really need it? You can always live with 4 and then upgrade with another 4 when prices have come down a bit more.
As for going for 's build, why? What makes you want to pick that one over the one I suggested? The 5850 is significantly better than the 5770 when it comes to games (assuming you're running at 1680x1050 or above) and every review has shown that the difference between the i5 and Phenom 2 is negligible.
�100 difference for a card that will not really give you much more performance…
In all honesty go for a GTX 260 if you can find some
nVIDIA anounced there new cards will launch in March if that helps. With a �700 budget i would avoid all AMD chips. They just don’t bring anything to the table in terms of processing power. Not being a fanboy, even the vice president of AMD said he wouldn’t use a AMD chip if he didn’t work for them lol (he has left them now)
�100 difference for a card that will not really give you much more performance...
If that is true, im looking for the cheapest build, therefore �100 is essential if I want it to be best for value.
With the 5850…
Better PSU + Ram Manufactures.
�100 difference for a card that will not really give you much more performance...
In all honesty go for a GTX 260 if you can find some http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/graphics/2009/10/14/ati-radeon-hd-5850-review/6Really? Reviews say otherwise. Once you start turning on AA and the resolution, the 5850 pulls ahead quite clearly. The minimum FPS is a lot higher.
nVIDIA anounced there new cards will launch in March if that helps. With a �700 budget i would avoid all AMD chips. They just don't bring anything to the table in terms of processing power. Not being a fanboy, even the vice president of AMD said he wouldn't use a AMD chip if he didn't work for them lol (he has left them now)Isn’t that quoted from Intel? From a statement made in 2004? Might want to check your reasoning next time
http://news.cnet.com/8301-13924_3-10433953-64.html
There’s absolutely nothing wrong with AMD chips and for a budget like this, reviews have shown that you’re far better off spending more money on the graphics than the CPU if you’re gaming (within reason obviously). Even the AMD Athlon II X4 620 keeps up with the big players for games.
i take , ive heard that corsair is the best power supply maker, and i have no doubt their ram is good. Also i trust intel a bunch, and the 5850 is agreed from both sides. However, make sure your monitor can go up to 1080×1920 or the 5850 will have been a huge waste.
– Love the build.
5850 looks great.
�100 difference for a card that will not really give you much more performance...
In all honesty go for a GTX 260 if you can find some http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/graphics/2009/10/14/ati-radeon-hd-5850-review/6Really? Reviews say otherwise. Once you start turning on AA and the resolution, the 5850 pulls ahead quite clearly. The minimum FPS is a lot higher.
nVIDIA anounced there new cards will launch in March if that helps. With a �700 budget i would avoid all AMD chips. They just don't bring anything to the table in terms of processing power. Not being a fanboy, even the vice president of AMD said he wouldn't use a AMD chip if he didn't work for them lol (he has left them now)Isn't that quoted from Intel? From a statement made in 2004? Might want to check your reasoning next time
http://news.cnet.com/8301-13924_3-10433953-64.html
There's absolutely nothing wrong with AMD chips and for a budget like this, reviews have shown that you're far better off spending more money on the graphics than the CPU if you're gaming (within reason obviously). Even the AMD Athlon II X4 620 keeps up with the big players for games.
Yes it was from 2004, situation is about the same now as it was then however and i did indicate it was in the past by saying he had left AMD. Not wanting to start a AMD > Intel bashing discussion…not again please lol What i’m trying to say is there is no advantage in buying a AMD based system. Those Athlon II x4 Chips get trashed by Core 2 duos unless it’s a specific multithreaded application.
@OP You should look at the I5750 setup has posted and change the GPU if you want better game performance. Remember 10 fps performance gain will mean the difference between completely unplayable and smooth at certain settings. 20fps is a mile behind 30fps
EDIT: i would also go for the i5750 quad core over the duel core cpu posted. I think the prices are about the same.
Heres my try, many people mightn’t like it however its a little different.
Again, my knowledge is lacking in terms of hardware – However I had a look on a few bits and bobs earlier.
As nice as the blu ray drive is at the moment in time I find it an unnecessary luxury, considering the money can go towards a better graphics card.
An update in terms of finance: for the end of february I will be able to spend �950 on the PC but it must include a monitor, and if possible mouse and keyboard.
Thanks for all posts today, please keep them coming. Very interesting to hear people’s ideas and picked components.
^ Then just go for my last rig with this screen http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MO-117-SA&groupid=17&catid=949&subcat=
Oops out of stock.
Ahh great monitor, will check over time to see if it re-stocks.
Wait… you are not buying now?
Make a topic or bump this when you are going to be buying in a matter of days. Untill then just forget about it or go buy a few copies of custom pc magazine to read.
It is within the next month. I can purchase whenever hence why I can easily see myself purchasing now.
The extra �200 that I added above is going towards a monitor, and that money comes at the end of Feb.
I can use the PC with my Regza 32″ while I wait for a monitor, or simply use my old monitor for a while.
It is within the next month. I can purchase whenever hence why I can easily see myself purchasing now.The extra �200 that I added above is going towards a monitor, and that money comes at the end of Feb.
I can use the PC with my Regza 32″ while I wait for a monitor, or simply use my old monitor for a while.
Remember the higher the screen resolution the more graphic card power it will need to run your games. I would recommend a 24″ screen 1920 x 1200.
I think your best bet is to buy a system based around the I5-750.
V fast chip and extremely easy for a beginer to put on a decent overclock for more horse power.
the HD 5850 would compliment that system nicely too for a solid capable games machine. You don’t need to look any further than that. Machine will be a great performer in games and in applications or whatever you want to throw at it.
If you can afford a HD5850 with an i5-750,like said, it would do nicely. HD 5770 might struggle with some games at the high resolutions you are talking about (with aa turned on).
You can add some decent coolers later to overclock, too.
Thats the thing though, I barely know what overclocking is let alone doing it. Coolers and stuff aren’t necessary for me at the moment, I just want something to build and play at high res without the need to add coolers crazy fans or what not.
That’s the thing with coolers and overclocking, you can do it later, if you want it
Ok remember im a casual gamer, check this.
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=FS-180-OK&tool=3plays arma 2 and crysis on very high setting unbelieveable for the price thanks ocukby far the best gaming pc i have ever come across, it plays any game on the market, plays crisis at 35fps on the max max settings, unbelievable price for something that is definately gunna last me for a long long time. dont hesitate to buy this, im writing this review i got crisis itunes world of warcraft ect running in the background and its fast as hell, excellent product 5starruns crisis like a dream aswell as many of other games such as gta iv, transformers 2 and prototype all maxed out Quick and Easy setup. Runs Empire Total War like a dream. Absotely amazing, i really recommend this pc! Plays Crysis, FarCry2 and Demigod all without any slowdown! Beats the living **** out of my older �1200 system from just over a year and a half ago. Unbelievable you can get a system with a 4850 in it for only �350. 5* Product with excellent packaging.For THAT price, it seems fantastic. What do you think?
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help me also guys
http://www.google.com?t=4665702&highlight=? Look through the pages here there are some great components recommended.
Ok remember im a casual gamer, check this.http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=FS-180-OK&tool=3
plays arma 2 and crysis on very high setting unbelieveable for the price thanks ocukby far the best gaming pc i have ever come across, it plays any game on the market, plays crisis at 35fps on the max max settings, unbelievable price for something that is definately gunna last me for a long long time. dont hesitate to buy this, im writing this review i got crisis itunes world of warcraft ect running in the background and its fast as hell, excellent product 5starruns crisis like a dream aswell as many of other games such as gta iv, transformers 2 and prototype all maxed out Quick and Easy setup. Runs Empire Total War like a dream. Absotely amazing, i really recommend this pc! Plays Crysis, FarCry2 and Demigod all without any slowdown! Beats the living **** out of my older �1200 system from just over a year and a half ago. Unbelievable you can get a system with a 4850 in it for only �350. 5* Product with excellent packaging.For THAT price, it seems fantastic. What do you think?
Each of the builds suggested here are far better than that and will last longer. Prebuilt PCs will always cost more.
You dont think it will last?