Installing fresh OS on new Samsung Evo 850 SSD

August 2nd, 2016

So I’ve been having a really hard time installing Windows 7 ultimate 64bit or even Windows 8 64bit on my new Samsung EVO 850 120gb SDD. The computer I’m installing on has no running OS or HD’s installed. In addition it does not have a CD-drive. I’ve been using Microsoft’s USB tool software tool to convert my USB’s to bootable drives with the ISO files I have. The problem is when I try to install a fresh OS on the formatted new SSD it does not pop up as a drive for the computer I’m trying to install on. Yes, I went into BIOS and changed to AHCI mode and made sure the boot sequence was set for the flash drive. I would like to point out on this HP computer the ACHI mode seems to keep changing back to RAID every time I go back into BIO’S to check. Yes, the SATA cable works I’ve been using two for both computers. The SATA cable is plugged into SATA 3 port not sure if it’s an Intel SATA port. I know the SSD is working because I’ve been able to install and run Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit on my working computer without any effort. The computer I’m trying to install the fresh OS is an HP p6510y. http://h20564.www2.hp.com/hpsc/doc/public/display?docId=emr_na-c02174835
How come I can’t see the SSD drive or load any drives at the Windows start up installation screen? I’ve tried the command line shift+F10 to diskspace > list disk and all that jazz but it still doesn’t show the SSD. It’s odd because the SSD is shown as one of the boot drives when the computer boots!
I even tried installing the OS onto the SSD on my computer but the problem is you can’t swap OS’s on different machines because the hardware and drivers are different and it will just respond with errors stating there is no working OS on this drive….I’m completely stumped… this shouldn’t be this hard what am I missing…? I’ve installed OS successfully onto SSD’s in the past.
I used this link as well but does not help with my problem.
http://www.overclock.net/t/1156654/seans-windows-7-install-optimization-guide-for-ssds-hdds
In addition I would like to add I would prefer to install the OS onto the SSD with a CD-ROM because it’s so much easier. I have an extra CD-ROM that I can plug in the HP computer but the PSU only has one power connector for HD’s and It’s unfeasible to have the CD-ROM and the SSD at the same time because the lack of connection support….please help

Answer #1
two options :
1.) blank install windows on a different machine, simply install it, then swap the drive
2.) check the S-ATA port in which you have plugged the drive into, not all sata ports are bootable , depending on the board.
from what I can see on http://support.hp.com/us-en/document/c01925486 , this board has 2 sata connectors, 1x 3x SATA 1 and 1x 3x Sata II … try plugging the SSD into the each of the 2 slots (any of the 3 pins should do) and boot up … see if windows detects the drive in any of the slots
sorry, but this is the best help I can give for that board
Answer #2
I tried a blank install of Windows successfully onto my computer for the SSD but when I swapped the drives with the HP computer it wouldn’t boot into Windows Desktop it went into Windows Recovery menu. The problem with installing the drive on a different computer is that the hardware and drivers won’t cooperate once you swap the drives into different computers. Unless I’m missing something, honest question lol? How can I install Windows without it loading the hardware specific drivers of the computer I don’t want to has the OS. Thanks for the response I will try plugging the SSD into a different port, much appreciated.
Answer #3
If you cant see the drive after the boot image loads then it needs drivers, The setup should ask for drivers then if not then plug the ssd into your other pc and run the following commands
Replace the disk # with that of your ssd

diskpart
select disk 0
clean
convert gpt
create partition primary size=300
format quick fs=ntfs label="Windows RE tools"
assign letter="T"
create partition efi size=100
 
format quick fs=fat32 label="System"
assign letter="S"
create partition msr size=128
create partition primary
format quick fs=ntfs label="Windows"
assign letter="W"

Then dump the contents of the install.wim file to your windows parttion (replace X with your mounted iso
Dism /apply-image /imagefile:x:\sources\install.wim /index:1 /ApplyDir:W:\
Finally create the boot files
bcdboot W:\Windows /s S: /f ALL
Unplug the drive and plug it into the pc you want to install to and make sure legacy boot mode is disabled in the firmware.
The os should now boot, If not switch back to booting from the usb key and when it loads do shift+f10 and enter
bootrec /rebuildbcd
Refrences
https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/hh825686.aspx?f=255&MSPPError=-2147217396
https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/hh825686.aspx?f=255&MSPPError=-2147217396

The problem with installing the drive on a different computer is that the hardware and drivers won't cooperate once you swap the drives into different computers. Unless I'm missing something, honest question lol? How can I install Windows without it loading the hardware specific drivers of the computer I don't want to has the OS. Thanks for the response I will try plugging the SSD into a different port, much appreciated.
If you are using windows 8 and up it dosnt matter, Youll have to uninstall the ati software for example but the driver will be removed at first boot. You can take a disk with server 2012 from a production server and plug it into a pc and it will boot.
Answer #4
Thanks for the response. I will give this a go and see what happens. You are right I need drivers for the SSD to be seen as a legitimate device to install the OS from Windows installation screen. Hopefully results. For the time being I have utilized an old HDD on the HP machine and it installed perfectly fine, slow but fine. Additionally I could use the Samsung migration software tool to clone the drive and buy a SATA to USB adapter since the PSU is short of power connections for it to be able to have both drives in the machine at the same time in the process of cloning the old HDD with the SSD. It would be ideal to perform a clean installation so I will try your method first.
Answer #5
edited x2: So I followed the methods to every detail but to no avail it still does not show the SSD as a drive even when I type bootrec /rebuildbcd
Then dump the contents of the install.wim file to your windows parttion (replace X with your mounted iso
What exactly does that mean are you saying just the install.wim file by its self or the entire folder? Which folders am I dumping into the Windows partition I know I’m missing something?

 

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