FLAC Selected bitrate

August 19th, 2013

I have 2 FLAC albums, here are the logfiles:
Exact Audio Copy V0.99 prebeta 4 from 23. January 2008
EAC extraction logfile from 16. September 2008, 9:03
Rammstein / Sehnsucht
Used drive : HL-DT-STDVDRAM GH20NS10 Adapter: 3 ID: 0
Read mode : Secure
Utilize accurate stream : Yes
Defeat audio cache : Yes
Make use of C2 pointers : No
Read offset correction : 667
Overread into Lead-In and Lead-Out : No
Fill up missing offset samples with silence : Yes
Delete leading and trailing silent blocks : No
Null samples used in CRC calculations : Yes
Used interface : Native Win32 interface for Win NT & 2000
Gap handling : Appended to previous track
Used output format : User Defined Encoder
Selected bitrate : 768 kBit/s
Quality : High
Add ID3 tag : No
Command line compressor : C:\Program Files\FLAC\flac.exe
Additional command line options : -V -8 -T "artist=%a" -T "title=%t" -T "album=%g" -T "date=%y" -T "tracknumber=%n" %s

Exact Audio Copy V0.99 prebeta 5 from 4. May 2009
EAC extraction logfile from 5. December 2010, 0:31
Rammstein / Rosenrot
Used drive : TSSTcorpCDDVDW TS-L632H Adapter: 1 ID: 0
Read mode : Secure
Utilize accurate stream : Yes
Defeat audio cache : Yes
Make use of C2 pointers : No
Read offset correction : 6
Overread into Lead-In and Lead-Out : No
Fill up missing offset samples with silence : Yes
Delete leading and trailing silent blocks : No
Null samples used in CRC calculations : Yes
Used interface : Native Win32 interface for Win NT & 2000
Gap handling : Appended to previous track
Used output format : User Defined Encoder
Selected bitrate : 128 kBit/s
Quality : High
Add ID3 tag : No
Command line compressor : C:\Program Files\Exact Audio Copy\Flac\flac.exe
Additional command line options : -8 -V -T "ARTIST=%a" -T "TITLE=%t" -T "ALBUM=%g" -T "DATE=%y" -T "TRACKNUMBER=%n" -T "GENRE=%m" -T "COMMENT=EAC FLAC -8" %s

How can album 2 be a lossless FLAC if the bit rate is only 128kbps?

Answer #1
Lousy recording material???
It is what it is.
Answer #2
I think you can compress flac this much. Not sure though.
Answer #3
So is it lossless?
Answer #4
Can you upload a track? Do you have the cue files?
Edit: I think that the last parameter “Flac – 8 ” at eac is the level of compression and it must be around 128kbps indeed. So I’m almost certain that it’s real and can be reverted w/o loss.
Answer #5
FLAC, LOG and CUE files:
http://hotfile.com/dl/144481464/3054779/FLACTRACK.rar.html
http://www.mediafire.com/?t7czwepkof8bg2w

I’ve ran Spectro and it says it’s 22.1KHz. Audiochecker – Conclusion: this track is CDDA with probability 100%. I can’t quite put my finger on what’s wrong with it, but something seems off
Answer #6
What is the lowest bitrate (or highest compression) achievable with FLAC?
With FLAC you do not specify a bitrate like with some lossy codecs. It's more like specifying a quality with Vorbis or MPC, except with FLAC the quality is always "lossless" and the resulting bitrate is roughly proportional to the amount of information in the original signal. You cannot control the bitrate much and the result can be from around 100% of the input rate (if you are encoding noise), down to almost 0 (encoding silence)
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http://flac.sourceforge.net/faq.html
Answer #7
the resulting bitrate is roughly proportional to the amount of information in the original signal
Could the ‘original signal’ be the problem, maybe in the way it was ripped from disc?
How about this other FLAC: Spectro says 22.1KHz. Audiochecker – Conclusion: this track is CDDA with probability 99%. This song is ‘tinny’ to me, and sounds no better than a 96kbps MP3!
http://www.mediafire.com/?174hzf7lejbi091
Answer #8
Not familiar with “Spectro”, but I ran it through Mediainfo and this was what it said..
General
Complete name : D:\General\IDM Downloads – Compressed\FLAC2\04 – Sequola Throne.flac
Format : FLAC
Format/Info : Free Lossless Audio Codec
File size : 23.6 MiB
Duration : 3mn 11s
Overall bit rate mode : Variable
Overall bit rate : 1 034 Kbps
Album : Fortress
Track name : Sequola Throne
Track name/Position : 04
Performer : Protest the Hero
Genre : Metal
Recorded date : 2008
Audio
Format : FLAC
Format/Info : Free Lossless Audio Codec
Duration : 3mn 11s
Bit rate mode : Variable
Bit rate : 1 034 Kbps
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Sampling rate : 44.1 KHz
Bit depth : 16 bits
Stream size : 23.6 MiB (100%)
Writing library : libFLAC 1.2.1 (UTC 2007-09-17)
A good bit and sampling rate!
http://mediainfo.sourceforge.net/en
Answer #9
Thanks for the link for MediaInfo. I can see the report is good, but does it not sound distorted to you?
Answer #10
Just got the songs (sorry sleep + work). No track has bitrate of less than 900kbps but something does indeed look fishy with the last one (uploaded on MF).

 

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