How to get the most out of an older computer?

August 1st, 2016

Hi there! I own an older computer and by older I mean Intel Pentium 4, 2.6 GHz, 2GB RAM with NVIDIA GeForce FX5200 126MB and an 80GB HDD. Very old fashioned compared to today’s day and age modern beasts.
I am looking to make the most out of that computer so I need some tips and advises on how to make it run to the best of its ability, making it efficient for smooth web browsing, watching live streams and occasional low end gaming experience.
Any advice is very much appreciated, take care!

Answer #1
Install TinyXP and use a lightweight AV such as ESET Nod32
Answer #2
TinyXP Rev11 + lightweight applications + light AV + firewall (I’d recommend the Pandacloud AV + Emsisoft Online Armor Firewall combo – both are free).
Answer #3
Alright so it’s gonna be TinyXP Rev11 (I suppose this will do http://www.google.com?t=15078659&highlight= but i have a question regarding which installation to choose just to make sure I get it right from the start?), I have used ESET Nod32 before and I am very pleased with how it works and it’s kept my computer problem free for a very long time. I haven’t tried Panda cloud AV + Emsisoft Armor Firewall, whats your experience with this software?
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Answer #4
Yeah Tiny XP and light av like in the sense avira or nod32 is great i guess cheers
Answer #5
If you like NOD, keep NOD, its lightweight enough. I just prefer free AV to a paid / cracked one. Use a version of tinyxp without updates. Having or not WMP or IE it’s up to you.
Answer #6

Jack_Torrance wrote: Select all

If you like NOD, keep NOD, its lightweight enough. I just prefer free AV to a paid / cracked one. Use a version of tinyxp without updates. Having or not WMP or IE it’s up to you.
I like you idea about free AV so I am going to give it a try as with this OS, so Pandacloud AV was your suggestion. Whats your experience with it?
And I have another thing I am unsure about, which software do you use to make a bootable USB drive? I have used microsoft one for creating a bootable USB for Win 7. And I am not sure if it will work for TinyXP.
Answer #7

Jack_Torrance wrote: Select all

If you like NOD, keep NOD, its lightweight enough. I just prefer free AV to a paid / cracked one. Use a version of tinyxp without updates. Having or not WMP or IE it’s up to you.
Answer #8
Alright so it's gonna be TinyXP Rev11 (I suppose this will do http://www.google.com?t=15078659&highlight= but i have a question regarding which installation to choose just to make sure I get it right from the start?), I have used ESET Nod32 before and I am very pleased with how it works and it's kept my computer problem free for a very long time. I haven't tried Panda cloud AV + Emsisoft Armor Firewall, whats your experience with this software?
Go for option #4 – you can use media player classic for video playing anf opera or firefox for browsing.
P4 was a good system – you can play a decent amount of games, mainly the 3d-isometric ones like Sacred. But the older 3D will play too – blood 2, quake 1 and 2, etc..
Answer #9

Go for option #4 - you can use media player classic for video playing anf opera or firefox for browsing.
P4 was a good system - you can play a decent amount of games, mainly the 3d-isometric ones like Sacred. But the older 3D will play too - blood 2, quake 1 and 2, etc..

Yeah, option 4 sounds like the most reasonable choice, the only thing I am not sure about is why “NO UPDATES”?
When it comes to video playing for basic needs media player classic can do the trick but on XP Professional and Win 7 my experience is that BS Player does the trick, it plays everything. What do I use now?
And isn’t Google Chrome the preferred internet browser, I have read that it’s the fasted and least demanding. Is that true?
Answer #10
"NO UPDATES"?
only for win update, which is useless for speed any way, and will actually slow your OS down over time
been installing tinyXP since 2002 and have NEVER run win update on the over a hundred I’ve installed
win update is the biggest scam there is, a corporate security blanket
how much memory ?
if less than 2gig the A/V will slow you down quite a bit
any player or browser will work on tinyXP
And isn't Google Chrome the preferred internet browser, I have read that it's the fasted and least demanding. Is that true?
I like firefox but either will work well
Answer #11

Go for option #4 - you can use media player classic for video playing anf opera or firefox for browsing.
P4 was a good system - you can play a decent amount of games, mainly the 3d-isometric ones like Sacred. But the older 3D will play too - blood 2, quake 1 and 2, etc..

Yeah, option 4 sounds like the most reasonable choice, the only thing I am not sure about is why "NO UPDATES"?
When it comes to video playing for basic needs media player classic can do the trick but on XP Professional and Win 7 my experience is that BS Player does the trick, it plays everything. What do I use now?
And isn't Google Chrome the preferred internet browser, I have read that it's the fasted and least demanding. Is that true?

I’d guess that the microshaft update system was removed with other stuff – don’t fuss about it, it’s not that essential.
(My father hasn’t done an ms update EVER..)(just have a decently good Av system)
Try and see if BS runs on the XpTiny.. if it doesn’t, use Mulder’s MPUI or SmPlayer – anything that uses libavcodec will play almost anything without having to use codec packs.
I honestly don’t know much about Chrome – if you do and like it, use it by all means.. Maybe someone else can comment on it’s usability in XpTiny?
(I suggest you also look for portable versions of things – if you don’t like them or they don’t work, nothing is crapped all over your system. If you DO like them then go grab the installation version to put it in properly (with file associations and etc).
Answer #12
Use PotPlayer for playing videos and Firefox with AdBlock Plus for browsing
Answer #13
Does anybody have a working link to a Windows TinyXP Rev 11? Everything I have found on so far doesn’t work.
Answer #14
what filehost do you prefer?
http://www.google.com?t=15078659&start=0
this one has RS and putlocker working..
Answer #15
PotPlayer is a good efficient player that uses the least resources..
Works well on a basic P4 system like mine.
Answer #16
Great, I finally managed to download the OS, now I am having trouble converting it to a USB drive. I have tried a few different programs and I haven’t had any success. Any ideas how to get the iso file on a usb?
Answer #17
Any ideas how to get the iso file on a usb?
try this method
http://www.laptop-forums.com/install-xp-u3-usb-key-easy-t4400.html
have had no luck myself installing TinyXP from a flash drive
no CD/DVD drive to connect, even temporarily ?
Answer #18
Any ideas how to get the iso file on a usb?
try this method
http://www.laptop-forums.com/install-xp-u3-usb-key-easy-t4400.html
have had no luck myself installing TinyXP from a flash drive
no CD/DVD drive to connect, even temporarily ?

I’ll try that method out today and see if it works.
Yeah my CD/DVD driver is wrecked but if I don’t get it on a usb drive I’ll probably get a new one and try to installing with a cd.
Answer #19
What mobo do you have ? You could quite possibly upgrade the cpu quite cheaply, and maybe stick another 2GB of RAM in it for 32 bit Windows.
Answer #20
He mentioned already 2 Gb RAM,I guess more is always a good thing
Answer #21
ManufacturerGigabyte Technology Co., Ltd.
ModelGA-8S661FXMP-RZ
CPU
NameIntel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.60GHz
Installed Memory2048 MBytes
Maximum Capacity2048 MBytes
Maximum Memory Module Size1024 MBytes
Memory Slots2
2 GB is max. capacity for my motherboard, so basically thats the best it can do. But for some reason I can’t make a bootable USB drive despite trying multiple programs. Any ideas?
Answer #22
Any ideas how to get the iso file on a usb?
try this method
http://www.laptop-forums.com/install-xp-u3-usb-key-easy-t4400.html
have had no luck myself installing TinyXP from a flash drive
no CD/DVD drive to connect, even temporarily ?

I'll try that method out today and see if it works.
Yeah my CD/DVD driver is wrecked but if I don't get it on a usb drive I'll probably get a new one and try to installing with a cd.

I have had no success with this method as well. The links for the application are dead. The application can’t be found on . I looked it up on google, found it on another fourm and the app is infected so I gave up on this method.
I don’t know what else I can do other than burning the TinyXP iso file to a cd but my CD/DVD drive isn’t working so that’s not an option right now. Do you guys have any other ideas how I can install TinyXp? Thanks for your advices and your time but I still have had no luck with this.
Answer #23
Try Rufus to make a bootable flash drive for installing.
http://rufus.akeo.ie/
Just passing in a hurry, will look up your mobo later and edit in here.
–It’s socket 478, so it would take a 3.4 GHz Prescott
SL7E6 or SL7Q8, or SL7PP etc it would give you a little more processing power cheaply, depending on your cooling.
You can pick them up as cheaply as �10 used
eg.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Pentium-4-3-4-GHz-SL7Q8-SL7E6-SL7PP-SOCKET-478-/260779186491
Answer #24
Try Rufus to make a bootable flash drive for installing.
http://rufus.akeo.ie/
Just passing in a hurry, will look up your mobo later and edit in here.
--It's socket 478, so it would take a 3.4 GHz Prescott
SL7E6 or SL7Q8, or SL7PP etc it would give you a little more processing power cheaply, depending on your cooling.
You can pick them up as cheaply as £10 used
eg.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Pentium-4-3-4-GHz-SL7Q8-SL7E6-SL7PP-SOCKET-478-/260779186491

Thanks mate for all the advice you gave me. I tried Rufus and it didn’t work. I got one more ISO to USB software I want to try and then tomorrow I’ll go and pick up a CD/DVD drive and simply burn it and install it with a CD. And you gave me a great idea about upgrading that processor and that’s exactly what I’ll do to get the most out of this old machine. Take care!
Answer #25
the main problem is not making the drive bootable
the main problem is that TinyXP 11 has the install menu and I have yet to find a way to boot it from a flash drive
Answer #26
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I know mate, I have tried at least six different application to convert ISO file to USB and only with one of them I had luck. But then when it boots from a USB drive, it doesn’t lead me to the installation process, I keep getting a message that a file or two are missing. And I tried repeating the process a few times just to make sure that I am doing it right and still no luck. I even tried Win to USB applications and that didn’t work as well.
Answer #27
XP is not a USB friendly OS and installing it that way can be challenge. Despite the various
available ways to do so, No one has found a method which works for all! For some
people it works and for others it just doesn’t. Also, It does require the BIOS to support the USB-HDD method of booting (and I’m not sure if yours does as the motherboard is very old)
You’d be best replacing your DVD drive and using it to install it. Set that aside, I disagree
with all the TinyXP hype. TinyXP is more suitable for PCs with very low RAM. You got 2GB so
the plain vanilla XP will run perfectly fine. There’s no need to use TinyXP (or any other modded version) I recommend you use this copy:
http://www.google.com?t=9090582&start=0
And if your HDD is of the SATA type, Make sure the SATA controller is set to IDE/Compatibility
mode in BIOS to avoid detection issues by XP setup. Also, OS regardless, Don’t expect any miracles in terms of HD video playback, That’s more dependent on the hardware than the OS.
You might be able to play up to 720p smoothly, But your certainly not gonna be able to play 1080p (not without extreme stutter at least!)
Answer #28
Hi there! I own an older computer and by older I mean Intel Pentium 4, 2.6 GHz, 2GB RAM with NVIDIA GeForce FX5200 126MB and an 80GB HDD. Very old fashioned compared to today's day and age modern beasts.
I am looking to make the most out of that computer so I need some tips and advises on how to make it run to the best of its ability, making it efficient for smooth web browsing, watching live streams and occasional low end gaming experience.
Any advice is very much appreciated, take care!

I would recommend you turn your old PC into a home media server. Then you can enjoy all your movies in the comfort of your TV, without worrying about any video format issue..
Answer #29
XP is not a USB friendly OS and installing it that way can be challenge. Despite the various
available ways to do so, No one has found a method which works for all! For some
people it works and for others it just doesn't. Also, It does require the BIOS to support the USB-HDD method of booting (and I'm not sure if yours does as the motherboard is very old)
You'd be best replacing your DVD drive and using it to install it. Set that aside, I disagree
with all the TinyXP hype. TinyXP is more suitable for PCs with very low RAM. You got 2GB so
the plain vanilla XP will run perfectly fine. There's no need to use TinyXP (or any other modded version) I recommend you use this copy:
http://www.google.com?t=9090582&start=0
And if your HDD is of the SATA type, Make sure the SATA controller is set to IDE/Compatibility
mode in BIOS to avoid detection issues by XP setup. Also, OS regardless, Don't expect any miracles in terms of HD video playback, That's more dependent on the hardware than the OS.
You might be able to play up to 720p smoothly, But your certainly not gonna be able to play 1080p (not without extreme stutter at least!)

[/img]I checked my HDD and it’s ATA type. And I didn’t have any difficulties setting up TinyXP Rev11 with a CD.
Now that you’ve mention HD video playback, I am having difficulties playing video steams (sports) I keep getting stutter when playing them with Google Chrome. Any ideas how to get this problem solved?
Answer #30
I would recommend you turn your old PC into a home media server. Then you can enjoy all your movies in the comfort of your TV, without worrying about any video format issue..
This is the first time I hear of a home media server. Can you tell me more about it or direct me to a web site where I can get more information about it?
Answer #31
I would recommend you turn your old PC into a home media server. Then you can enjoy all your movies in the comfort of your TV, without worrying about any video format issue..
This is the first time I hear of a home media server. Can you tell me more about it or direct me to a web site where I can get more information about it?

yes sure, here are few website that will help you get started:
http://www.pcworld.com/article/149042/any_pc_media_center.html
http://www.ehow.com/how_7799314_set-up-home-media-center.html
Answer #32
A home media server needs to be able to play HD video content via HDMI to your TV..
Not suitable with you CPU and GPU, at least not for 1080p, as you al;ready found.
Answer #33
Hi there! I own an older computer and by older I mean Intel Pentium 4, 2.6 GHz, 2GB RAM with NVIDIA GeForce FX5200 126MB and an 80GB HDD. Very old fashioned compared to today's day and age modern beasts.
I am looking to make the most out of that computer so I need some tips and advises on how to make it run to the best of its ability, making it efficient for smooth web browsing, watching live streams and occasional low end gaming experience.
Any advice is very much appreciated, take care!

I have been running Windows 7 Pro for 2years+ on a setup similar to yours (my main p-ship ) but with less specs than your P4 machine. No problems whatsoever.
Might be worth a spin….
Answer #34
I have been running Windows 7 Pro for 2years+ on a setup similar to yours (my main p-ship ) but with less specs than your P4 machine. No problems whatsoever.
Might be worth a spin....

I tried Windows 7 Pro a few weeks back and it’s just a little slower than Windows XP in the sense or running. So I’d rather have higher performance and that’s why I decided to switch to TinyXP Rev 11, and so far I am happy with TinyXP Rev 11, it’s missing a few things I like to use but within the download you have replacements for those programs.
I also haven’t yet decided which AV and firewall program to use, the suggestions I had are:
Anti-virus
1. Pandacloud AV
2. Avira 3. Nod32
Firewall
1. Emsisoft Online Armor Firewall
I want to get the best protection possible and keep the programs as light weight as possible to keep the computer running smoothly, I am going to look those up but any suggestion regarding this would be great.
Answer #35
I have another question about the VGA driver, do I need it since I am using a NVIDIA GeForce FX5200 128MB graphic card and it’s drivers and software?
Answer #36
NVIDIA GeForce FX5200 128MB graphic card
you need to install the driver for this to REPLACE the “VGA driver” to activate all available functions of your FX5200
being that’s an older card (2003) I would use 90 series drivers available here
ForceWare 97.94 Windows XP (8800) (2007)
http://downloads.guru3d.com/ForceWare-97.94--Windows-XP-(8800)-download-1613.html

more versions of those drivershttp://downloads.guru3d.com/download.php?cat=10&sort=0&page=3
Answer #37
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I tried installing the 90 series drivers of that website but it didn’t work. During the installation I kept getting the message that it can’t find the drivers. So I visited the official site and then recommended 175.19_geforce_winxp_32bit_english_whql, so I installed that version and everything works well.
Answer #38
I also haven’t yet decided which AV and firewall program to use, the suggestions I had are: Anti-virus 1. Pandacloud AV 2. Avira 3. Nod32 Firewall 1. Emsisoft Online Armor Firewall I want to get the best protection possible and keep the programs as light weight as possible to keep the computer running smoothly, I am going to look those up but any suggestion regarding this would be great.
Answer #39
Avira Antivir+Comodo would be best IMO. And I’m basing it on the following:
http://www.av-comparatives.org/images/docs/avc_fdt_201209_en.pdf
http://www.matousec.com/projects/proactive-security-challenge-64/results.php

Both are free. Antivir has a popup nag each time it updates, But no need to worry as it can be disabled:
http://www.elitekiller.com/files/disable_antivir_nag.htm
Set that aside, Do keep in mind that no anti-virus can provide 100% protection and while
some firewalls are better than others, They don’t provide fully-automated protection and you will
be prompted from time to time on what to do, So make sure you make smart decisions! (common sense is a major factor in computer security)
Answer #40
tried installing the 90 series drivers
opps
those were special for the 8800gt
175.19_geforce_winxp_32bit_english_whql
those should do fine
how much memory is nvsvc32.exe using in task mgr ?
the 90 series uses about 19kb
Answer #41
Avira Antivir+Comodo would be best IMO. And I'm basing it on the following:
http://www.av-comparatives.org/images/docs/avc_fdt_201209_en.pdf
http://www.matousec.com/projects/proactive-security-challenge-64/results.php

Both are free. Antivir has a popup nag each time it updates, But no need to worry as it can be disabled:
http://www.elitekiller.com/files/disable_antivir_nag.htm
Set that aside, Do keep in mind that no anti-virus can provide 100% protection and while
some firewalls are better than others, They don't provide fully-automated protection and you will
be prompted from time to time on what to do, So make sure you make smart decisions! (common sense is a major factor in computer security)

Thanks mate for the advice, I went with Avira AV and Comodo. And disable the nag. So far it looks good .
Answer #42
how much memory is nvsvc32.exe using in task mgr ?
the 90 series uses about 19kb

It’s using around 5k, which is ok. Compared to Google Chrome it’s non-existant.