PC build
September 18th, 2017
Gigabyte GA-990XA-UD3 Socket AM3+Motherboard
Kingston HyperX 8GB (2x4GB) Memory Module 1866MHz DDR3 Non-ECC CL9 240-pin DIMM XMP Predator Series
VTX3D ATI Radeon HD 5450 1GB Graphics Card
Seagate Barracuda 7200.14 3TB Hard Drive (7200rpm) SATA 64MB LiteOn IHES112 12X Blu-Ray Combo Drive SATA Internal Optical Drive
Flamingo FM-12A Mid Tower Case
OCZ CoreXStream 500W Power Supply (UK)
TP-Link 150Mbps High Gain Wireless USB Adapter
Arctic Freezer 13 CPU Cooler
Samsung 64GB 830 Series Solid State Drive
Eye-T 80mm Chassis Fan
StarTech Metal Oxide Thermal CPU Paste Compound Tube for Heatsink
The main purpose of this PC will be to rip, burn and encode films and TV shows. I have no interest in it being a gaming machine as I already have one of those.
What do you guys think? Good build? Anything you would change?
I would get a 750W PSU, other than that it’s a solid machine. Why AMD if I may ask?
No particular reason for being a AMD build TBH. I just want a processor that will be able to encode fast and an i7 is out of my price range. I figured 4.0GHz for �155 was a decent price.
I’ll have a look at a higher wattage CPU.
And thanks for your response.
I would recommend a i5 3570K instead, as it will fair better overall. http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/697?vs=701
If you do get the i5, the intel HD 4000 graphics (in the i5) will outperform the HD 5450, thus saving some money. Other than that, it’s decent, though I would change the cpu cooler to a CM hyper 212 +/evo and maybe a more reliable PSU.
As said before , opt for the i5 3570, get a higher wattage power supply and get a better GPU. If you really like to encode you’d better save up for an i7 processor though.
Just my thought,good luck with the build.
I would recommend a i5 3570K instead, as it will fair better overall. http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/697?vs=701
If you do get the i5, the intel HD 4000 graphics (in the i5) will outperform the HD 5450, thus saving some money. Other than that, it's decent, though I would change the cpu cooler to a CM hyper 212 +/evo and maybe a more reliable PSU.
It all depends what benchmarks you look at
http://www.cpubenchmark.net/high_end_cpus.html
And an FX8350 O/C’ed to 4.9 bench’s nicely amongst the i7 3930’s and i7 3960’s(obviously not OC’ed) but at a fraction of the price( just got to keep it cool), before any AMD bashers jump on my case I am not a fanboy and I am not saying I wouldn’t be happy with OC’ing a 3930K (maybe later in the year )
First of all thank you everyone for your replies. After comparing the prices and benchmarks of the i5 vs the FX-8350 I decided to stick with the AMD (like I’m not an AMD fanboy, infact this will be my first AMD machine in nearly 6 years). When I said above I’ll look at a higher wattage CPU I meant PSU, my mistake (I was tired). I have done a bit of changing around of parts and come up with this:
AMD FX-8350 Eight Core Black Edition CPU
Gigabyte GA-990XA-UD3 Socket AM3+Motherboard
VTX3D ATI Radeon HD 5450 1GB Graphics Card
Seagate Barracuda 7200.14 3TB Hard Drive (7200rpm) SATA 64MB (Internal)
LiteOn IHES112 12X Blu-Ray Combo Drive SATA Internal Optical Drive
TP-Link 150Mbps High Gain Wireless USB Adapter
Samsung 64GB 830 Series Solid State Drive
StarTech Metal Oxide Thermal CPU Paste Compound Tube for Heatsink
750W Powercool Power Supply
Kingston 8GB 1333MHz DDR3 Non-ECC CL9 DIMM x 2
Corsair H80 Hydro Series High Performance CPU Cooler
Inwin Fanqua Midi Tower Mesh Gaming Case
As I said in OP I’m not bothered for gaming and I know that the graphics card is weak (it’s �22) so please don’t tell me to buy a expensive graphics card as I want to keep costs to a minimum, I will consider other cheap cards.
Hopefully with the changes I’ve made I’ll be able to keep the CPU cool.
Apparently 394 watts is enough to run the build but I don’t mind spending extra to be on the safe side.
Any further suggestions, alterations?
It all depends what benchmarks you look at
http://www.cpubenchmark.net/high_end_cpus.html
And an FX8350 O/C'ed to 4.9 bench's nicely amongst the i7 3930's and i7 3960's(obviously not OC'ed) but at a fraction of the price( just got to keep it cool), before any AMD bashers jump on my case I am not a fanboy and I am not saying I wouldn't be happy with OC'ing a 3930K (maybe later in the year )
Passmark benches are synthetic based scores, while anandtechs are all real world benches. All that shows is that when every feature of the cores are being utilized, the 8350 will fair better, but is not as practical because no retail software will be capable of using all of it. That said, the intel 3570K can just as easily be oc’ed to 5ghz, so unless all 8 cores of the FX8350 are being used (and even then, both cpus will be fairly close), the 3570K will wipe the floor simply because of it’s better single core performance. Them ivy cores are also more power efficient, and I think they run cooler. And I like both AMD and Intel cores, but generally at that price range, Intel’s normally the better choice.
Get at least 1600mhz ram, and a more reliable power supply from Seasonic, Antec, Corsair, or PC Power & Cooling, because the PSU is one of the most important parts of a PC. 600w should do.
Them ivy cores are also more power efficient, and I think they run cooler. And I like both AMD and Intel cores, but generally at that price range, Intel's normally the better choice.
Get at least 1600mhz ram, and a more reliable power supply from Seasonic, Antec, Corsair, or PC Power & Cooling, because the PSU is one of the most important parts of a PC. 600w should do.
Nope Ivy’s run fairly hot. 10 degrees hotter than Sandy is hotter to me.
Just watercooling my old 3550.
The rest is the placebo effect.
I meant idle/load temps (i5 3570K vs FX 8350)
Ok in the real world, FX8350@4.9 idling at 12 degrees(across the cores, 25 at the socket ,does go lower if I crank everything up) and rarely goes over 40 degrees (obviously does with prime testing (63), but that ain’t real world), now perhaps you might like to explain the real world difference in getting 1600mhz ram over 1333mhz ram.
Edit: I’ve looked at the PSU and can see nothing wrong with it, just because it isn’t big brand doesn’t mean its not capable (Corsair, Seasonic weren’t always big names)
that’s just a perfect build for your purpose. I belive your encoding tool will utilize all 8 cores of the cpu making it a better choice.
and I don’t think that much powerful psu is necessary. Even a good branded 80+ 550w psu would have been safe for that build at full load.
happy encoding.
There probably isn’t much practical difference between 1333mhz and 1600mhz RAM, but seeing how they are basically the same price (at least in my area), it would be foolish not to get the faster one. 12 degrees idle (even on stock)??? That’s impossible, (only way that is possible is that your ambient room temperature is under 12 degrees, or you are pouring liquid nitrogen over the core), especially on a core that uses so much more power on idle than, say an i7 3770K. Seeing how I’ve never heard of the PSU brand and there doesn’t seem to be any legitimate reviews for that product, I’d say stay away. Risking having your system being shorted out just to save a few bucks isn’t worth it.
Agree regarding the RAM if they are around the same price. Not using liquid nitrogen (perish the thought ), current ambient room temp is 18 degrees, took a quick snapshot with speccy (AIDA64 and others give similar results) Low temps have been achieved with H80(fitted with Corsair SP120 High performance in Push/Pull exhaust) (not worth spending extra on H100 for approx 1 degree) and some very carefully selected fans (4X14cm side fans blowing around 400 CFM between them, 14cm bottom fan blowing around 100CFM, 20CM and 14CM fans at the front blowing another 250 CFM between them, and two more 14cm top fans exhausting another 100CFM each) removing the side panel does result in a blast of very cold air , it can be a little loud with everything turned up to full, not excessively though , I do run it most of the time at 4.5 with fans on low(gives similar temps)
As said that is across the cores, Mobo socket temp is around 26 degress at present.
Edit: keen to hit 5.0 but am reluctant to push temps over 65 ( I know real world difference between 4.9 and 5.0 is probably nothing, but it seems to be a holy grail figure I can’t quite get )
Edit: keen to hit 5.0 but am reluctant to push temps over 65 ( I know real world difference between 4.9 and 5.0 is probably nothing, but it seems to be a holy grail figure I can't quite get )
Its normal, AMD says overclocks will vary, realistically most can’t do 5Ghz. AMD states the roof for FX chips to be at 70, Intel says 100 for the Ivy’s. So its naturally that the FX chips will run cooler than those Intel ones as they don’t have much thermal headroom. Overclocking is a different story. I guess I’m out of the overclocking party, plainly my older rig was heating up my room really badly.
250W GPU, 125W CPU thanks.
First of all I’m bumping this topic for good reasons. I’ve finally be told I’m no longer at risk of redundancy so have decided that it is time I started, finally, buying parts. I’m wanting to know if anyone has any further suggestions for my build. Seeing as though the original topic started over a month ago now I’m wondering if anything has changed in the world of computers. I can’t keep up with all the latest parts being released anymore so I’m asking my WBB brothers for some help.
What’s your exact budget?
Max of �800
I made you 4 different builds, 2 Intel ones and 2 AMDs. The rest is up to you.
All of em include an internal wireless card and a blu-ray burner (the combo drive you
previously picked can only read BR and not burn it, Not sure if you noticed that or if you actually need the extra functionality. But if you don’t actually need BR, You could save up around �55 going with an ordinary burner)
I’ve also included a quiet CPU cooler and the PSU is modular too. The Intel builds have
integrated graphics, Which is why I haven’t included a video card with em. Personally, I’d go with the first build.
Intel Build #1 (2TB HDD, 16GB RAM)
Case: NZXT Tempest 210 / �53.99
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CA-054-NX
PSU: Corsair BS 600W Modular / �62.99
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CA-117-CS
Mobo: Gigabyte Z77-D3H / �83.99
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MB-391-GI
RAM: GeIL EVO Leggera 16GB (2x8GB) DDR3 1600 CL9 / �79.99
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MY-134-GL
CPU: Intel Core i5 3570k / �199.99
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CP-404-IN
CPU Cooler: Alpenf�hn Matterhorn Pure Edition / �29.99
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=HS-037-AL
SSD: Corsair Force GS 128GB / �99.98
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=HD-042-CS
HDD: Seagate Barracuda 2TB / �79.99
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=HD-255-SE
ODD: LG BH16NS40 Blu-ray Burner / �74.99
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CD-116-LG
Wireless Card: TP-Link Dual Band TL-WDN4800 PCI-E x1 / �27.98
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=NW-057-TP
�808.88 total (delivery included)
Intel Build #2 (3TB HDD, 8GB RAM)
Case: NZXT Tempest 210 / �53.99
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CA-054-NX
PSU: Corsair BS 600W Modular / �62.99
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CA-117-CS
Mobo: Gigabyte Z77-D3H / �83.99
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MB-391-GI
RAM: Crucial Ballistix Sport 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 1600 CL9 / �44.99
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MY-132-CR
CPU: Intel Core i5 3570k / �199.99
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CP-404-IN
CPU Cooler: Alpenf�hn Matterhorn Pure Edition / �29.99
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=HS-037-AL
SSD: Corsair Force GS 128GB / �99.98
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=HD-042-CS
HDD: Seagate Barracuda 3TB / �104.99
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=HD-256-SE
ODD: LG BH16NS40 Blu-ray Burner / �74.99
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CD-116-LG
Wireless Card: TP-Link Dual Band TL-WDN4800 PCI-E x1 / �27.98
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=NW-057-TP
�798.88 total (delivery included)
AMD Build
Case: NZXT Tempest 210 / �53.99
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CA-054-NX
PSU: Corsair BS 600W Modular / �62.99
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CA-117-CS
Mobo: ASRock 970 Extreme4 / �71.99
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MB-069-AK
RAM: Crucial Ballistix Sport 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 1600 CL9 / �44.99
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MY-132-CR
CPU: AMD Piledriver 8350 / �184.99
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CP-336-AM
CPU Cooler: Alpenf�hn Matterhorn Pure Edition / �29.99
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=HS-037-AL
GFX: EVGA GeForce GT 210 with passive cooling / �23.99
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-203-EA
SSD: Corsair Force GS 128GB / �99.98
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=HD-042-CS
HDD: Seagate Barracuda 3TB / �104.99
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=HD-256-SE
ODD: LG BH16NS40 Blu-ray Burner / �74.99
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CD-116-LG
Wireless Card: TP-Link Dual Band TL-WDN4800 PCI-E x1 / �27.98
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=NW-057-TP
�795.86 total (delivery included)
Amd Build #2 with 16GB ram & 2TB HDD
Case: NZXT Tempest 210 / �53.99
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CA-054-NX
PSU: Corsair BS 600W Modular / �62.99
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CA-117-CS
Mobo: ASRock 970 Extreme4 / �71.99
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MB-069-AK
RAM: GeIL EVO Leggera 16GB (2x8GB) DDR3 1600 / �79.99
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MY-134-GL
CPU: AMD Piledriver 8350 / �184.99
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CP-336-AM
CPU Cooler: Alpenf�hn Matterhorn Pure Edition / �29.99
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=HS-037-AL
GFX: EVGA GeForce GT 210 with passive cooling / �23.99
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-203-EA
SSD: Corsair Force GS 128GB / �99.98
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=HD-042-CS
HDD: Seagate Barracuda 2TB / �79.99
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=HD-255-SE
ODD: LG BH16NS40 Blu-ray Burner / �74.99
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CD-116-LG
Wireless Card: TP-Link Dual Band TL-WDN4800 PCI-E x1 / �27.98
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=NW-057-TP
�805.87 total (delivery included)
Thanks for your input Roberto
I’ve come up with this now
AMD FX-8350 Eight Core Black Edition CPU
Seagate Barracuda 7200.14 3TB Hard Drive (7200rpm) SATA 64MB (Internal)
TP-Link 150Mbps High Gain Wireless USB Adapter
SanDisk Ultra Plus – 64 GB Solid state drive
Corsair H80 Hydro Series High Performance CPU Cooler
StarTech Metal Oxide Thermal CPU Paste Compound Tube for Heatsink
Gigabyte GA-970A-DS3 AMD 970A (Socket AM3+) DDR3 PCI-Express ATX Motherboard
8GB G.Skill Ripjaws-X F3-12800CL9D-8GBXL 1600MHX DDR3
Corsair GS600 Gaming Series 600 Watt ATX PS/2 Power Supply Unit
Gigabyte GV-N640OC-2GI GeForce GT 640
Plus a Aerocool X-Predator X3 case.
Total of �760
I dropped the blu-ray burner as I’ve already got an external one so I can wait a while till buying another.
There are a number of things wrong with your build:
1. Just because the motherboard and CPU matches on the socket level, It doesn’t mean it supports it! According to the supported CPU list, It in fact does NOT support the 8350:
http://www.gigabyte.com/support-downloads/cpu-support-popup.aspx?pid=4122
2. Getting a RAM that has tall heatsinks is a not a good idea as it may interfere with large CPU coolers.
3. You really don’t need an �80 video card (as your not gonna be gaming)
4. The PSU. Nothing wrong with it, But getting a modular one would be better (case airflow wise)
Other than that, You don’t really have to buy a 3rd party thermal paste, An internal wireless card would be better, And while you may think a liquid cooler would be better than air, The H80 is not that great and there are air coolers that perform just as good (even a little better) and are far cheaper!
Set all that aside, If you insist on going with the 8350 (even tho the 3570k is a better performer)
then you’d be better off going with my first AMD build (minus the BR burner) it’d total at �720.87
which is cheaper than yours, And you’ll get better value too! (Bigger SSD, Modular PSU
Thanks allot for the heads up Roberto. You just saved me from making a stupid mistake.
^^ At least it was warm