Lately Movies Coming Up With Copyrights

February 1st, 2020

a few movies i’ve d/l’d come up with a copyright message and the audio stops or the whole movie is said that it was not suppose to played on this device.
why is this happening?

Answer #1
Sounds like (or doesn’t sound like!) it’s using Cinavia protection..
http://www.askmefast.com/I_have_a_wwwcinvidiacom_comes_up_and_mutes_the_film_the_film_is_ok_but_the_sound_is_muted_it_is_code_3-qna2985381.html
If you get any of those movies from , you could report them
http://forum.videohelp.com/threads/353091-How-to-remove-Cinavia-protection
Answer #2
Hmm we dont hace to worry about this protection thing if we’re playing the movies on a laptop/PC, right? Its only for PS3’s if i remember correctly
Answer #3
not just ps3s most devices now are coming with the cinavia protection
Answer #4
a few movies i've d/l'd come up with a copyright message and the audio stops or the whole movie is said that it was not suppose to played on this device.
why is this happening?

You fail to say the most important thing………What do you use to play video ?
Answer #5
If you are DLing a converted movie, say to mkv/avi/mp4… any protection should already have been overcome. Are you DLing full DVD clones? If not I would guess whatever player you are using is defaulting out to audio protection when in fact it just doesn’t support that particular audio/you don’t have the correct audio codec.
of course it’s hard to say without precise details.
edit: from my recent experience some BR’s have been a bit dodgy when copying the full disc. ultimately though it got done.
Answer #6
Thats good then coz im always downloading 720p BRRips or WEB-DL’s
Answer #7
Get an older sumvison player. They will play anything, even a remux and cinevia is bypassed.
Answer #8
Cinavia protection = get anyDVD + specific player
7.3.8.0 2013 12 12
- New: WinDVD 11.6.1.4 is now supported by AnyDVD's unique Cinavia fix
- New: Nero Blu-ray player 12.0.20064 is now supported by AnyDVD's unique Cinavia fix
- New (Blu-ray): Support for new discs
- New (DVD): Support for new discs
- Some minor fixes and improvements
7.3.7.0 2013 11 14
- New: TMT 6.5.1.150 is now supported by AnyDVD's unique Cinavia fix
- New (Blu-ray): Support for new discs
- New (Blu-ray): Delete superfluous files from disc
- New (DVD): Support for new discs
- Some minor fixes and improvements

http://www.slysoft.com/download/changes_anydvd.txt
Answer #9
a few movies i've d/l'd come up with a copyright message and the audio stops or the whole movie is said that it was not suppose to played on this device.
why is this happening?

You fail to say the most important thing.........What do you use to play video ?

i burn them to dvd or avi’s i can plug a flash drive in and watch from there on the tv.
Answer #10
heyal,
thank you for your responses!
i get the movies from here then burn them to dvd and watch them thru the tv with BRplayer, my other dvdplayer is on other tv which never had any problem errors or msg’s.
i’ve never heard of the cinavia i just burn them or if in an .avi format i can copy them to a flash drive and plug it into the player and watch from flash drive on tv.
i think i understand if it were to play only on ps3’s but the msg., that i can remember and remembering that the movie ride-along and robocop are 2 of the ones that gave the msg. i don’t see why it would be a format just for ps3’s since they ripped to watch on tv or pc. …. am a bit confused on that one. i can’t remember which ones [movies] i d/l’d from which posts so i can’t report it i deleted them off my drive already, sorry.
looking forwarding to hearing back from yal i hope i gave you the info you needed.
thanks bunches!
Answer #11
Why do you bother burning them? Just get an external he and save your films there. Then hook that up to a sumvision player. I can promise you this is the easiest, cheapest And best solution.
Answer #12
– a quick slightly OT question:
Rather than an external hd (proper one), would this work:
laptop drive in a sata-to-usb enclosure (designed for laptops to have a usb access to another laptop drive) plugged into the media player (i was thinking about the WD media HD thingy).
Answer #13
- a quick slightly OT question:
Rather than an external hd (proper one), would this work:
laptop drive in a sata-to-usb enclosure (designed for laptops to have a usb access to another laptop drive) plugged into the media player (i was thinking about the WD media HD thingy).

Not sure what you mean mate. But from my experience, I prefer to have a relatively new/reliable hd. I mainly dl remux or 1080 and store them to watch later. It would be a pain in the ass for several gigs of films to go down, just because of an unreliable hd. If you just used an old hd for a few films, that would be ok.
I use a couple of 16gb usbs with the sumvision and have never had a problem. We also stream stuff we have downloaded to iPads and other pads/phones with a nas.
Answer #14
I think the problem is whether the actual player has got the dreaded Cinvidia detection or not..
When plays movies through her old DVD player…No problems..
But when she use her nice new shiny BD player, then Cinvidia gets detected.
obviously has no probs with his old Sumvision…But I wonder if the new models of Sunvision and other brands now incorporate Cinvidia ?
Maybe something can be found on Google…..Reminiscent of the days of Macrovison really
Answer #15
^no real reason to buy a new sumvision. Just get and older model, that way it’s guaranteed to play anything. I’ve got the original sumvision 2, 1080p.
Answer #16
^
Doesn’t that mean getting a well used second hand model probably nearing the end of its life ?
Answer #17
@ I am trying to understand, for my personal interest and may help belle as well, why would any protection, at all, remain after it is converted from a DL file (avi/mkv/ogg/mp4/….) to I presume a dvd format to burn to disc for playing in a dvd machine? I can’t think of any video release on this board that has not been converted (therefore by necessity) and had any form of protection removed. otherwise it would not allow itself to be copied/converted/read. I must be missing something. New dvd player/old dvd player may spit out homemade dvd’s but the protection should no longer remain. please straighten me out, I don’t get it.
edit: @, I got what you meant. I have heard that, years ago when everyone was dealing with vcdeasy, vcd’s svcd’s, virtualdub for subtitles…. that certain model dvd players would play almost anything you threw at them, then in their perpetual genius for improvement they would improve the player where it wouldn’t play anything but a dvd off the shelf. I guess that was the point, they were conforming to the various protection racket schemes, it just seemed like they were improving themselves out of business since who wants a player that is so restrictive.
Answer #18
^
Doesn't that mean getting a well used second hand model probably nearing the end of its life ?

I meant buy an older model. I thought that was clear when I said the older models play anything.
Answer #19
- a quick slightly OT question:
Rather than an external hd (proper one), would this work:
laptop drive in a sata-to-usb enclosure (designed for laptops to have a usb access to another laptop drive) plugged into the media player (i was thinking about the WD media HD thingy).

Not sure what you mean mate. But from my experience, I prefer to have a relatively new/reliable hd. I mainly dl remux or 1080 and store them to watch later. It would be a pain in the ass for several gigs of films to go down, just because of an unreliable hd. If you just used an old hd for a few films, that would be ok.
I use a couple of 16gb usbs with the sumvision and have never had a problem. We also stream stuff we have downloaded to iPads and other pads/phones with a nas.

Sorry – I should have been clearer.
I had an i1 and an i7 laptop – the i7 latop had a VRM burst and burn out one 4G memory stick and the cpu – the HD is perfect.
So I took it out and bought a sata-to-usb cradle thing, like a little pocket you slide the drive into and then plug the usb lead into the laptop – I use it for Acronis backups (slow though!!)
I was wondering if the usb ports of these little media players is gutsy enough to power the HD vis the usb-to-sata link properly.
Answer #20
I think the problem is whether the actual player has got the dreaded Cinvidia detection or not..
When plays movies through her old DVD player...No problems..
But when she use her nice new shiny BD player, then Cinvidia gets detected.
obviously has no probs with his old Sumvision...But I wonder if the new models of Sunvision and other brands now incorporate Cinvidia ?
Maybe something can be found on Google.....Reminiscent of the days of Macrovison really

I agree about the newer thing – i had a Sony bluray that dies on discs with cinavia but allowed usb files with cinavia to play.
My new blu player, a samsung, had worked the same until a sneaky-bastaard wifi update of the firmware stopped it playing from usb too.
Bastards!!
Answer #21
- a quick slightly OT question:
Rather than an external hd (proper one), would this work:
laptop drive in a sata-to-usb enclosure (designed for laptops to have a usb access to another laptop drive) plugged into the media player (i was thinking about the WD media HD thingy).

Not sure what you mean mate. But from my experience, I prefer to have a relatively new/reliable hd. I mainly dl remux or 1080 and store them to watch later. It would be a pain in the ass for several gigs of films to go down, just because of an unreliable hd. If you just used an old hd for a few films, that would be ok.
I use a couple of 16gb usbs with the sumvision and have never had a problem. We also stream stuff we have downloaded to iPads and other pads/phones with a nas.

Sorry - I should have been clearer.
I had an i1 and an i7 laptop - the i7 latop had a VRM burst and burn out one 4G memory stick and the cpu - the HD is perfect.
So I took it out and bought a sata-to-usb cradle thing, like a little pocket you slide the drive into and then plug the usb lead into the laptop - I use it for Acronis backups (slow though!!)
I was wondering if the usb ports of these little media players is gutsy enough to power the HD vis the usb-to-sata link properly.

Not sure bud. Either way, just buy an older sumvision.
Can I also ask: why the hell are people here still using bluray players?!
Answer #22
yes i got the error trying to watch robo cop and cinvidia or something like that was mentioned
Answer #23
heyal,
another movie came out with it again i truly think that its the blue ray player, i can’t afford a new player, please let me know if there is a software that can remove the protection during conversion or before it gets burned?
Answer #24
yes i got the error trying to watch robo cop and cinvidia or something like that was mentionedI hope you are reporting those posts! the protection has to be removed, else the posts are spam!.
Answer #25
a few movies i've d/l'd come up with a copyright message and the audio stops or the whole movie is said that it was not suppose to played on this device.
why is this happening?

Lol don’t burn to Disc it’s the copy protection that’s kicking in with yur Bluray copies. I never burn my Movies always play via the computer either linked upto the Big tv or watch via yur Laptop or like me via my 32inch monitor tv…
http://www.fortiumtech.com/blu-lock-blu-ray-disc-anti-rip-copy-protection-duplication-software.aspx
http://www.afterdawn.com/news/article.cfm/2010/03/03/new_cinavia_drm_takes_aim_at_pirates
Answer #26
heyal,
another movie came out with it again i truly think that its the blue ray player, i can't afford a new player, please let me know if there is a software that can remove the protection during conversion or before it gets burned?

It is the Bluray player via it’s Firmware Detecting that you have loaded a pirate copy Bluray disc “DON’T BURN TO DISC” your just creating nice coasters for yur drinks m8
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Answer #27
heyal, sorry its been a while but as far as the Cinvidia it is included with all the b/r players have had a few try to play them with the same problem. and as far as burning them i prefer to cuz of course you have family that wants to watch it and i have been able to convert them and put up to 6 movies on a dvd without any loss of quality…a lot of the movies quality doesn’t come out very good like they are in a tun so i don’t know how to fix that but i find that burning them is how i do it.
im about to do some research on this Cinvidia and see if there is something that can by pass it. any suggestions are always welcomed!!! thanks again!
Answer #28
@ I am trying to understand, for my personal interest and may help belle as well, why would any protection, at all, remain after it is converted from a DL file (avi/mkv/ogg/mp4/....) to I presume a dvd format to burn to disc for playing in a dvd machine? I can't think of any video release on this board that has not been converted (therefore by necessity) and had any form of protection removed. otherwise it would not allow itself to be copied/converted/read. I must be missing something. New dvd player/old dvd player may spit out homemade dvd's but the protection should no longer remain. please straighten me out, I don't get it.
edit: @, I got what you meant. I have heard that, years ago when everyone was dealing with vcdeasy, vcd's svcd's, virtualdub for subtitles.... that certain model dvd players would play almost anything you threw at them, then in their perpetual genius for improvement they would improve the player where it wouldn't play anything but a dvd off the shelf. I guess that was the point, they were conforming to the various protection racket schemes, it just seemed like they were improving themselves out of business since who wants a player that is so restrictive.

see thats the direction i was going with because a lot of cam rips shouldn’t come up with any protection but they seem to be detected i’ve played ripped and cam rips with the same problem with the br player….can someone tell me how that works?
strange huh!
Answer #29
cinavia protection is in the audio track and it does not matter where the audio comes from if cinavia protection is present
u could get a blu ray rip and put cinavia protected audio from a cam onto the blu ray rip and the blu ray rip would not play
all it takes is cinavia protected audio and cinavia detecting hardware such as the ps3 or blu ray players with recent firmwares to enable detection
bcus the protection is in the audio, cam audio recorded in a movie theater can be infected with cinavia
all it takes is a device to detect it and prevent playback
there is some software which can make files playable, its called dvd-ranger cinex hd. it can also be removed by altering the audio
http://www.dvd2hd.com/
Answer #30
There are two ways around Cinavia:
1] useless = degrade the cinavia trigger, the echo, so much that it doesn’t kick in. Useless becasue it means having to find 1 to x many echos spots and basically KILL the audio (even a tiny echo left will trigger the cinavia)
2] useful, possibly = demux the ripped file, delete the audio track, replace it with one demuxed from a dvd of the same movie – remux back into the video file.
Only works if the dvd also doesn;t have the protection (often OK) BUT might lead to audio delays in the final video.
Nearly all bluray players now have it, many have it on flash/usb playing AND disc playing (sad!!)
Most media players don’t have it – especially the “non-brand name ones”.
Answer #31
Happens on the XBOX 360 also. Pain in the butt when you realize it’s a dud. Of course I’ve resorted to watching most films on my PC.
Answer #32
If you are DLing a converted movie, say to mkv/avi/mp4... any protection should already have been overcome. Are you DLing full DVD clones? If not I would guess whatever player you are using is defaulting out to audio protection when in fact it just doesn't support that particular audio/you don't have the correct audio codec.
of course it's hard to say without precise details.
edit: from my recent experience some BR's have been a bit dodgy when copying the full disc. ultimately though it got done.

Nope, Cinavia survives rec-encoding quite easily.
Answer #33
heyal,
sorry haven’t replied in a while but busy and sites been down too.
in a post someone mentioned a different recorder if i’m understanding it right such windvd or nero, but i like to watch them on tv instead of sitting in front of the computer i’m still and about to do some research on the Cinvidia it is in the blu-ray player but as someone also said that it shouldn’t be coming up if ripped right. it was also said that i may not have the right codec, which one would that be?
i’ll post what i find in the Cinvidia topic…very soon!
thanks bunches!!!
Answer #34
I posted this some time ago, may be of help. http://www.google.com?t=20100912&highlight=
Answer #35
DVD Ranger is supposed to remove Cinvidia, think it works from some sort of database..
DVD Ranger latest version, cracked, is available from torrents..
https://kickass.to/dvd-ranger-v5-0-1-9-incl-crack-tordigger-t7111331.html
Don’t know much about it or if it works ( don’t have any new BRs or DVDs to try, or anything with Cinvidia to play it on ) but it installs and cracks OK !
(Like the read me file says, you enter any serial no. and email.
Then it says wrong serial, but due to the crack file, it is registered when you read the ‘about’ info )
EDIT…
As mentioned in ‘s topic..
^^That's not CinEx HD,.
There are listings for it @ wbb but they are lacking the databases which makes it just another decrypter.

Answer #36
a tv is not an ideal media playback device because they often have issues with some media and file types especially mkv. save yourself a lot of problems and just buy a media player and you should not have any problems with cinavia. find one with the facilities that you need such as networking, usb 3.0, memory card slots etc.
Answer #37
I think the problem is whether the actual player has got the dreaded Cinvidia detection or not..
When plays movies through her old DVD player...No problems..
But when she use her nice new shiny BD player, then Cinvidia gets detected.
obviously has no probs with his old Sumvision...But I wonder if the new models of Sunvision and other brands now incorporate Cinvidia ?
Maybe something can be found on Google.....Reminiscent of the days of Macrovison really

heyal,
i had been reading more on it and many say that cinvidia is in not breakable and that the cinvidia is being embedded or something like that but not just one but many of the manufacturers have opted in as to cut down on piracy. the bad thing about it is you won’t have a right to back up your master disc’s by way of copying them to another dvd. anyway it seems that the newer models will have cinvidia rather bluray in particular thats why older devices will play without warning, the other thing is that you shouldn’t update your rom chip? because thats another way they have to spread cinvida throughout the population.
and don’t update chip on game consoles either.
thanks bunches!
Answer #38
Cinavia currently is not breakable no, there’s a company that likes to claim they have but user experiences beg to differ. Cinavia is embedded on an inaudible level so it survives recoding to any other format. It is intention to cut down the piracy but not much success there if you have an older working player or a player that can play blu-ray but isn’t licensed to.
rom chip? Where did you read that lol. you need to read up that’s not how it works. Every new licensed player past feb 1st, 2012 has hardware embedded (not just single chip) designed to detect cinavia. Carefully NOTE the wording. It sais NEWLY LICENSED, not manufactured meaning that if you pick up a new player that was licensed for BD playback up to jan 31st, 2012 it does not fall under the mandatory cinavia detection requirement. Software player that can play back blu-ray but are not a (commercially licensed) player are not required to detect cinavia (usually that’s every player that doesn’t have full bd java menu capabilities). Any old player licensed before that date that still gets firmware updates today doesn’t fall under the cinavia detection rule either, as even though its a current firmware update the player was licensed before feb 1st, 2012
Spread cinavia throughout the population via rom chip? cmon, please. Its the hardware that detects the cinavia signal on the disc, it can’t spread cinavia itself. The cinavia signal is in the audio on the movie.
Don’t update chip on game consoles? Again bogus, 1st of all the game console has to be licensed for blu-ray playback (very few are, the ps3 is one of them licensed for playback) and on the few that are like the ps3 it isn’t handled on a hardware (chip lol) level but on the player’s firmware (software) level.
Answer #39
There is the new version of DVD-Ranger CinEx available in apps now.
Anyone who has any of that type of copyrighted stuff could give it a whirl..
http://www.google.com?t=20429451

 

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