Is it safe to use Google Public DNS?
September 1st, 2013
It’s one of the fastest and reliable DNS providers out there at the moment. I can assure you it’d be more secure than your ISP’s DNS.
-paroxysM^ replied: It's one of the fastest and reliable DNS providers out there at the moment. I can assure you it'd be more secure than your ISP's DNS.
Thanks. That removes all my worries
And you trust Google not to monitor everything you do?
One of the worlds largest advertising sites?
One that sells space on its search results?
YUP and it really speeds up ur browsing
Fluffbutt replied: And you trust Google not to monitor everything you do?
One of the worlds largest advertising sites?
One that sells space on its search results?
Exactly, there is no such thing as a free lunch.
There are not giving you these things out of the goodness of there hearts. They are trying to make money and what better way to monitor people then to give them a dns server.
andy1033 replied: If you’re thinking that they have nothing better to do than process the millions of DNS requests they get every minute that’s ridiculous. Your ISP is more likely to scan DNS logs than Google. You guys should take off your tinfoil hats. And also, their interest based ads have nothing to do with DNS.Fluffbutt replied: And you trust Google not to monitor everything you do?
One of the worlds largest advertising sites?
One that sells space on its search results?
Exactly, there is no such thing as a free lunch.
There are not giving you these things out of the goodness of there hearts. They are trying to make money and what better way to monitor people then to give them a dns server.
Thanks for all the answers. It helps me alot
-paroxysM^ replied: andy1033 replied: If you're thinking that they have nothing better to do than process the millions of DNS requests they get every minute that's ridiculous. Your ISP is more likely to scan DNS logs than Google. You guys should take off your tinfoil hats. And also, their interest based ads have nothing to do with DNS.Fluffbutt replied: And you trust Google not to monitor everything you do?
One of the worlds largest advertising sites?
One that sells space on its search results?
Exactly, there is no such thing as a free lunch.
There are not giving you these things out of the goodness of there hearts. They are trying to make money and what better way to monitor people then to give them a dns server.
Nope, sorry, can’t accept that.
Try this, if you dare:
log on to G DNS
do nothing but one type of browsing (look at cameras/ford cars/porn/vegetables, etc..)
after about 2 hours of this, do a google search..
I bet you get a lot of those sponsored ‘hit’ adverts that refer to what you’ve been browsing..
It’s a super-easy job for them to monitor dns requests, a simple thing to log and collate.
I bet you get a lot of those sponsored 'hit' adverts that refer to what you've been browsing.. Nah. That doesn’t work. You get interest based ads only relative to the stuff you search on. Same with Gmail.
Now, yes, but is it also true when you use G’s DNS?
I certainly wouldn’t put it past them..
Lets face it, the US FBI insists on phones having rootkits to monitor your emails and downloads for tagged words!
You people who call this conspiracy theory nutter talk are the ones with the wool over your eyes..
Even if G DNS monitored me I couldn’t care less
There’s something wrong with my ISP DNS that’s why I need to use google DNS. I hope it is really safe
Well, it works..
But you need to define what “safe” means to you.
No company in the USA will defy a Govt order to hand over evidence of copyright breach. The movie and music industry has so many politicians on its payroll that they can order anything and get away with it. All they need do is trot out the ‘anti-terrorist’ claim (or the ‘pedobear’ claim).
For general browsing and bypassing isp censorship it’s OK, and it’s unlikely that your records will be called for and submitted (and there ARE records, regardless of what the ‘world-is-a-happy-place’ people say) – they have bigger fish to fry then you.
Fluffbutt replied: Well, it works..You should understand how DNS works. DNS is as it is just DNS. A DNS log will only tell you the time, hostname, client address and resolved address. A DNS log cannot tell you which file you’ve downloaded, how much you’ve downloaded or whether you’ve even downloaded anything at all. It’s just domain name resolution. To a DNS server there’s no difference whether you’re scraping a torrent tracker or pinging it’s hostname. There’s absolutely no evidence they could collect from a DNS log.
But you need to define what "safe" means to you.
No company in the USA will defy a Govt order to hand over evidence of copyright breach. The movie and music industry has so many politicians on its payroll that they can order anything and get away with it. All they need do is trot out the 'anti-terrorist' claim (or the 'pedobear' claim).
For general browsing and bypassing isp censorship it's OK, and it's unlikely that your records will be called for and submitted (and there ARE records, regardless of what the 'world-is-a-happy-place' people say) - they have bigger fish to fry then you.
I fully understand how DNS works, you forgot to add it also notes requesting address!
What you fail to understand is these people have full lists of any and every so-called ‘undesirable’ sites, and the DNS numbers for them.
If you have a dns call for a pedobear site, your originating request will be logged!
They may not know what you did on a site, or even if you just pinged it, but they now you wanted that address.
Really the only thing saving us is that we are each one in billions of numbers and requests. They may never get to us in our lifetimes, they might next year.
I’m sorry to pop your bubble of how wonderful life and the world is, but it’s run by utter and total bastards, with other utter and total bastards in their $$$ pockets.
add it also notes requesting address!
Requesting address = client address (;
if you have a dns call for a pedobear site, your originating request will be logged!And you’re saying your ISP wont log you if you use it’s DNS server instead? Fail logic right there. There are NO reliable, good performance DNS servers outside the big players and ISP DNS servers and you can very well bet they’ll log the requests. The only way out is hosting your own DNS offshore and using secure VPNs that don’t log connection information. Just using an anonymous DNS server isn’t going to stop them from knowing and by them I’m not talking about Google I’m talking about your ISP and other agencies. Remember that DNS is part of layer number 7 of the 7 layer OSI model. They can log your requests right from layer 2.
And you're saying your ISP wont log you if you use it's DNS server instead? Fail logic right there.
I’ve never said that my ISP doesn’t log! I never referred to an ISP’s workings at all..
What I’m saying is that Google DNS is not the safe haven people think/say it is. It’s good, great even, but it’s not some panaceas for the ‘net’s problems and restrictions/censorship/monitoring.
I also stated that I fully believe that Google will monitor the requests as part of its advert serving operations (more so that than the legal side of it, unless ordered by some Govt. bureau).
Also to note: different countries have different laws and implementations of them.
At the moment USA is about as draconian as China, but in a worse way – worse because China makes no effort to hide it’s restrictions and monitoring, the USA (supposedly the land of the free) has all these hidden layers of monitoring and control in the name of anti-terrorism and anti-pedobear.
-paroxysM^ – I’m not trying to start a fight here, and I respect your greater knowledge or the working of networking and its in’s and out’s.
I also have knowledge though, and it’s about humans and human nature, and it’s not good..
-paroxysM^ - I'm not trying to start a fight here, and I respect your greater knowledge or the working of networking and its in's and out's. Sorry if I came across offensive I never meant that. It’s all healthy discussion man (Y). Oh I’m no expert it’s just my field of work.