HDD Used Space
January 26th, 2020
It’s 120GB but how come it only shows up as 111GB? Is it because there are 1024mb in 1GB, not 1000mb so the actual GB count is smaller than advertised?
Second question: Checking the properties of the HDD, it says I’ve used 75GB(80billion bytes), but when I highlight everything in it the total is 70GB (75billion bytes). Why is this? What happened to my precious 5GB?
Thanks in advance for your assistance.
1. Windows sees 1 GB as 1024 MB, hdd manufactureres see 1 GB as 1000 MB (as shown on the box when you bought it), so you will always have some loss, the larger your hdd, the bigger the loss will be.
2. hidden files, etc.
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It’s false advertizing by the manufacturers.
Same goes for ISP’s they might advertize 30 Mbps, but your actual download speed will be /8.
Thats because of the bytes/bits bs.
Same goes for ISP's they might advertize 30 Mbps, but your actual download speed will be /8
thats why they use a little b not a capital B. b = bit, B = byte
Also aside from ‘s answer, partitions need to be read so a MBR needs to be made. It might not be huge but it’ll take up some space
What happened to my precious 5GB?
Hibernation/Pagefile/SystemRestore,Temp files
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thats why they use a little b not a capital B. b = bit, B = byte
Well ya I know that, but imo that’s false advertizing, people want to know the actual dlling/uploading speed that they will get.
Answer #6
The only usable Memory is 111GB cos the rest is needed for various operations of your HDD like Boot up files or system files etc
and secondly i think you have 5GB of hidden files which may be the files that are needed by your HDD for it to function properly
Answer #7
It’s a portable HDD incase you didn’t read the sentence above.
But I think Windows thinking 1GB=1024mb and manufacturers thinking 1GB=1000mb is correct too now. Mathematically do we actually loose space? From a message above (sorry I don’t know how to multiquote) what was that about ISP advertising internet speeds of 30mbps so you need to divide by 8?
Thanks for all the replies and help.
Answer #8
Well you actually said it yourself.
Windows knows that 1gb = 1024 mb, so do manufacturers ofc.
Lets say:
A: 1024 mb
B: 1gb
A and B are all the same but manufacturers advertise only with numbers like option B, and the OS works with A.
Won’t go any further into that, but that’s about the same way that ISP’s work.
1mega byte per second = 8mega bit.(because 8bit = 1byte)
I just took 30mega byte per second as an example so that would become 30/8.
Answer #9
This will clear out the storage and missing GB issue:
About the “Internet speed” : it’s a marketing gimmick. The ISPs could very well use the transfer rate in KB/s (or MB/s), instead of connection in Mb/s when advertising.
They use Mbps because it gives a greater number, which misleads the usual ‘noob’ customer into thinking he’s getting “a lot” for the money.
Actually, 30Mbps (mega bits) would be 30/8 KBps.
Answer #10
Answer #11
I get it now!!! Well I think I do…
Manufacturers say 160GB=160 thousand megabytes
Windows says 1GB=1024MB so 160GB=approximately 150GB.
That’s the 10GB difference. But since Windows just interprets the 1GB differently to manufacturers do we actually get our money’s worth for a HDD? I believe that there’s still the same amount of megabytes on the HDD but it is just interpreted differently into GB which makes the value smaller.
What about Linux, OS X, and other OS’s?
Answer #12
hehe ya you get it now.
About other OS’s well… I don’t know about that one, but I guess same would apply to all OS since the rule still applies that 8bit = 1byte.
Why do companies do this? Well to get more money ofc^^
Answer #13
Indeed, OMG! I was trying to correct and made an even bigger mistake. Sorry about that.
What I meant is : “Actually, 30Mbps (mega bits) would be 30/8 MBps, expressed in KBps.”
That would give a maximum download speed of 3840 kilobytes/second.
Answer #14
lol
I’ve honestly never seen anything more incorrect on any forum.
Answer #15
But since Windows just interprets the 1GB differently to manufacturers do we actually get our money’s worth for a HDD?
Doesn’t the amount of bytes remain the same? Just GB changes?
Answer #16
Yes. All the HDD manufacturers use the same measure.
The fact that the OS applies a different measure doesn’t matter.
If the manufacturers would start using the 1024MB/1GB ratio, they’ll just tax you for the “extra” GBs and it would be the same thing.
No.
The HDD manufacturers use the standard multiplication system, considering 1 KiloByte=10^3 Bytes. Therefore 1GigaByte = 1000 MegaBytes = 1 000 000 KiloBytes = 1 000 000 000 Bytes.
The OS uses the binary system, considering 1 KiloByte=2^10 Bytes. So 1GB = 1024 MB = 1 048 576 KB = 1 073 741 824 Bytes.
In both systems 1 Byte = 8 bits. So you have to multiply by 8 to find the number of “bits”.
Answer #17
Literally the same amount of matter?
In other words, is 150GB in Windows equivalent to the 160GB that I paid for?
Answer #18
Yes, man. The physical dimensions, the space availabe on a HDD is the same.
It’s just measured in 2 different ways.
Microsoft says that a Kilobyte has 1024 Bytes.
The manufacturer says a Kilobyte has 1000 Bytes.
So, the HDD has 160GB when you ask the manufacturer and 152GB when counted by Windows. But it’s the same damn HDD.
Answer #19
Same goes for ISP's they might advertize 30 Mbps, but your actual download speed will be /8thats why they use a little b not a capital B. b = bit, B = byte
Well ya I know that, but imo that’s false advertizing, people want to know the actual dlling/uploading speed that they will get.
The only usable Memory is 111GB cos the rest is needed for various operations of your HDD like Boot up files or system files etc
and secondly i think you have 5GB of hidden files which may be the files that are needed by your HDD for it to function properly
Well ya I know that, but imo that's false advertizing, people want to know the actual dlling/uploading speed that they will get.
You cant complain about ISP’s misguiding people instead go blame those American Standard Organisations who thought its better to denote Line speed(transmission speed) in Bits/sec instead of Bytes/sec or blame the softwares which count your download speed in Bytes/sec instead of Bits/secWhat happened to my precious 5GB?
Hibernation/Pagefile/SystemRestore,Temp filesIt’s a portable HDD incase you didn’t read the sentence above.
But I think Windows thinking 1GB=1024mb and manufacturers thinking 1GB=1000mb is correct too now. Mathematically do we actually loose space? From a message above (sorry I don’t know how to multiquote) what was that about ISP advertising internet speeds of 30mbps so you need to divide by 8?
Thanks for all the replies and help.
What happened to my precious 5GB?
Hibernation/Pagefile/SystemRestore,Temp files
It's a portable HDD incase you didn't read the sentence above.
But I think Windows thinking 1GB=1024mb and manufacturers thinking 1GB=1000mb is correct too now. Mathematically do we actually loose space? From a message above (sorry I don't know how to multiquote) what was that about ISP advertising internet speeds of 30mbps so you need to divide by 8?
Thanks for all the replies and help.Well you actually said it yourself.
Windows knows that 1gb = 1024 mb, so do manufacturers ofc.
Lets say:
A: 1024 mb
B: 1gb
A and B are all the same but manufacturers advertise only with numbers like option B, and the OS works with A.
Won’t go any further into that, but that’s about the same way that ISP’s work.
1mega byte per second = 8mega bit.(because 8bit = 1byte)
I just took 30mega byte per second as an example so that would become 30/8.
This will clear out the storage and missing GB issue:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MegabyteAbout the “Internet speed” : it’s a marketing gimmick. The ISPs could very well use the transfer rate in KB/s (or MB/s), instead of connection in Mb/s when advertising.
They use Mbps because it gives a greater number, which misleads the usual ‘noob’ customer into thinking he’s getting “a lot” for the money.
I just took 30mega byte per second as an example so that would become 30/8.Actually, 30Mbps (mega bits) would be 30/8 KBps.
Actually, 30Mbps (mega bits) would be 30/8 KBps.
GOD LOL you mean a guy with 30Mbps connection would get 3.75 KBps download speed ? that download speed is actually like the speed you get in a 2G mobile lolWhat happened to my precious 5GB?
Hibernation/Pagefile/SystemRestore,Temp files
It's a portable HDD incase you didn't read the sentence above.
But I think Windows thinking 1GB=1024mb and manufacturers thinking 1GB=1000mb is correct too now. Mathematically do we actually loose space? From a message above (sorry I don't know how to multiquote) what was that about ISP advertising internet speeds of 30mbps so you need to divide by 8?
Thanks for all the replies and help.
Well you actually said it yourself.
Windows knows that 1gb = 1024 mb, so do manufacturers ofc.
Lets say:
A: 1024 mb
B: 1gb
A and B are all the same but manufacturers advertise only with numbers like option B, and the OS works with A.
Won't go any further into that, but that's about the same way that ISP's work.
1mega byte per second = 8mega bit.(because 8bit = 1byte)
I just took 30mega byte per second as an example so that would become 30/8.I get it now!!! Well I think I do…
Manufacturers say 160GB=160 thousand megabytes
Windows says 1GB=1024MB so 160GB=approximately 150GB.
That’s the 10GB difference. But since Windows just interprets the 1GB differently to manufacturers do we actually get our money’s worth for a HDD? I believe that there’s still the same amount of megabytes on the HDD but it is just interpreted differently into GB which makes the value smaller.
What about Linux, OS X, and other OS’s?
What happened to my precious 5GB?
Hibernation/Pagefile/SystemRestore,Temp files
It's a portable HDD incase you didn't read the sentence above.
But I think Windows thinking 1GB=1024mb and manufacturers thinking 1GB=1000mb is correct too now. Mathematically do we actually loose space? From a message above (sorry I don't know how to multiquote) what was that about ISP advertising internet speeds of 30mbps so you need to divide by 8?
Thanks for all the replies and help.
Well you actually said it yourself.
Windows knows that 1gb = 1024 mb, so do manufacturers ofc.
Lets say:
A: 1024 mb
B: 1gb
A and B are all the same but manufacturers advertise only with numbers like option B, and the OS works with A.
Won't go any further into that, but that's about the same way that ISP's work.
1mega byte per second = 8mega bit.(because 8bit = 1byte)
I just took 30mega byte per second as an example so that would become 30/8.
I get it now!!! Well I think I do...
Manufacturers say 160GB=160 thousand megabytes
Windows says 1GB=1024MB so 160GB=approximately 150GB.
That's the 10GB difference. But since Windows just interprets the 1GB differently to manufacturers do we actually get our money's worth for a HDD? I believe that there's still the same amount of megabytes on the HDD but it is just interpreted differently into GB which makes the value smaller.
What about Linux, OS X, and other OS's?hehe ya you get it now.
About other OS’s well… I don’t know about that one, but I guess same would apply to all OS since the rule still applies that 8bit = 1byte.
Why do companies do this? Well to get more money ofc^^
Actually, 30Mbps (mega bits) would be 30/8 KBps.
GOD LOL you mean a guy with 30Mbps connection would get 3.75 KBps download speed ? that download speed is actually like the speed you get in a 2G mobile lolIndeed, OMG! I was trying to correct and made an even bigger mistake. Sorry about that.
What I meant is : “Actually, 30Mbps (mega bits) would be 30/8 MBps, expressed in KBps.”
That would give a maximum download speed of 3840 kilobytes/second.
It's false advertizing by the manufacturers.
Same goes for ISP's they might advertize 30 Mbps, but your actual download speed will be /8.
Thats because of the bytes/bits bs.lol
I’ve honestly never seen anything more incorrect on any forum.
But since Windows just interprets the 1GB differently to manufacturers do we actually get our money’s worth for a HDD?
Doesn’t the amount of bytes remain the same? Just GB changes?
...do we actually get our money's worth for a HDD?Yes. All the HDD manufacturers use the same measure.
The fact that the OS applies a different measure doesn’t matter.
If the manufacturers would start using the 1024MB/1GB ratio, they’ll just tax you for the “extra” GBs and it would be the same thing.
Doesn't the amount of bytes remain the same? Just GB changes?No.
The HDD manufacturers use the standard multiplication system, considering 1 KiloByte=10^3 Bytes. Therefore 1GigaByte = 1000 MegaBytes = 1 000 000 KiloBytes = 1 000 000 000 Bytes.
The OS uses the binary system, considering 1 KiloByte=2^10 Bytes. So 1GB = 1024 MB = 1 048 576 KB = 1 073 741 824 Bytes.
In both systems 1 Byte = 8 bits. So you have to multiply by 8 to find the number of “bits”.
...do we actually get our money's worth for a HDD?
Yes. All the HDD manufacturers use the same measure.
The fact that the OS applies a different measure doesn't matter.
If the manufacturers would start using the 1024MB/1GB ratio, they'll just tax you for the "extra" GBs and it would be the same thing.
Doesn't the amount of bytes remain the same? Just GB changes?
No.
The HDD manufacturers use the standard multiplication system, considering 1 KiloByte=10^3 Bytes. Therefore 1GigaByte = 1000 MegaBytes = 1 000 000 KiloBytes = 1 000 000 000 Bytes.
The OS uses the binary system, considering 1 KiloByte=2^10 Bytes. So 1GB = 1024 MB = 1 048 576 KB = 1 073 741 824 Bytes.
In both systems 1 Byte = 8 bits. So you have to multiply by 8 to find the number of "bits".Literally the same amount of matter?
In other words, is 150GB in Windows equivalent to the 160GB that I paid for?
Yes, man. The physical dimensions, the space availabe on a HDD is the same.
It’s just measured in 2 different ways.
Microsoft says that a Kilobyte has 1024 Bytes.
The manufacturer says a Kilobyte has 1000 Bytes.
So, the HDD has 160GB when you ask the manufacturer and 152GB when counted by Windows. But it’s the same damn HDD.
Yes, man. The physical dimensions, the space availabe on a HDD is the same.
It's just measured in 2 different ways.
Microsoft says that a Kilobyte has 1024 Bytes.
The manufacturer says a Kilobyte has 1000 Bytes.
So, the HDD has 160GB when you ask the manufacturer and 152GB when counted by Windows. But it's the same damn HDD.Ok thanks, that’s exactly what I wanted, succinctly.
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