New pc reccomenndations
August 6th, 2016
Budget around £600-700
Uk partspicker would be fine
Intel CPU
Would be using for video editing/encoding
No need for keyboard & mouse.
No os needed as already have it on disk
No screen needed
Thanks
does he plan gaming ? cuz if it is solely for video editing and encoding only a strong i7 cpu with integrated graphics would be enough with no dedicated gpu or just with a basic dedicated gpu.
He does no gaming at all. Mainly video editing/encoding
does he plan gaming ? cuz if it is solely for video editing and encoding only a strong i7 cpu with integrated graphics would be enough with no dedicated gpu or just with a basic dedicated gpu.
I don’t agree with that, depending on your needs you may need from a capable to a really strong GFX card. If you want to produce life-like results you’ll need a beast of a card.
@OP: There are several builds at pcpartpicker already, several highly rated with lots of comments, depending on his needs he can pick from there or combine parts. Tell him to go to “completed builds” and search with the terms “video editing” then adjust the filters acccordingly.
well , most of encoding and video editing software i know , harnesses only the power of cpu and optionally gpu which is less efficient but in order to be sure , can you ask your friend which software does he use ? all of them for video editing.
Adobe premier and the other Adobe software I think. I will just ask him
What he is using is Adobe Premier
Adobe Encoder
Adobe Audition
After Effects 5
Photoshop 6
ok , no adobe product should be working with gpu by default and actually it was totally disabled on some products and can be enabled through some unofficial tweaks , dunno if it has changed yet. same goes for after effects. but in order to be sure , i m asking for other people who reads this topic , if any of these software uses gpu rendering or acceleration by default ? even if not default , would enabling it provides significant increase in efficiency ? or having dedicated gpu should be a great advantage in some way while using them ? there should be people who uses these at professional level and it is better to ask their opinions to be 100 percent sure.
you can also ask your friend about this if he knows about it. once we made a conclusion about this , making build should take just a few minutes.
A good CPU should be the primary thing (and enough RAM to run the software: minimum 16GB).
The intel i7 4770 is an excellent CPU for the task.
Use of GPU is only supported in the later versions of the Adobe CC family.
ah , if you know about these things can you help those guys who are trying to rebuild the whole textures of mm6 they have been trying it for the last 5 years
, i did a build which is lower than your friend’s budget so he can save some money and even buy a strong gpu in the future and can do gaming. even though it is not certainly concluded , i built this according to “no dedicated gpu” is necessary. i may not be available when it is concluded so it is better to do it now.
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/PZfsRB
here and a few notes about it.
1- cpu could be 4th generation like said but they almost have similar price with new 6th generation. performance is similar but i chose the way of “new is better” when price is similar.
2- i picked the most basic motherboard for z170 chipset which is also very good
https://www.asus.com/Motherboards/Z170-P/
https://www.asus.com/Motherboards/Z170-K/
https://www.asus.com/Motherboards/Z170-A/
first one is the one on our list , the other 2 are 1 upper tier. second one adds more memory overclocking option along with usb 3.1 support which is totally useless for now. third one adds better crystal audio and more cpu overclocking options to the second one. ofc with each step price increases. by assuming your friend’s needs , i picked the first one. know that none of these have on board wireless if it is necessary and the ones which have it are expensive. there is another model with the name of Z170-P D3 do not confuse it with the one on the list. D3 one supports ddr3 memory.
3- i picked 2 ssds but you will choose one. samsung 850 is one of the best around but it is 256gb for your budget , on the other hand ocz arc is mid tier and has one of the best price/gb , price/performance ratio among all and it comes with 480gb for your budget. so choose according to your needs. both of their cost is added to the total price on the page so remember to remove one after selecting.
4- i7 6700k cpu does not come with cooler so i just picked a random cooler , you can choose whatever you want and even a liquid cooling with your remaining budget.
5- i chose a basic but popular case from cooler master but preference of cases may change to person to person cuz of aesthetics so you may select another one at the same price range.
6- lastly price is $ and should be lower than the UK pound which your friend had set as budget.
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/PZfsRBA grand?
Budget around £600-700
read number 6 on notes also you will remove one of the ssds
i m asking for other people who reads this topic , if any of these software uses gpu rendering or acceleration by default ? even if not default , would enabling it provides significant increase in efficiency ? or having dedicated gpu should be a great advantage in some way while using them ?.
Nel, video encoding use to depend mostly on CPU. Now, with your software you want to use a high end video card to do the horsework. Example:
4K gaming video without using NVidia hardware video encoder , my CPU didn’t move from using 100%. Which means the 5960X is over used and putting too much stress and heat on the CPU. If I remember,
total RAM went up to 10.5GB’s.
Enable Hardware video encoder (Nvidia 980) in PowerDirector 14, CPU usage was 20-30% and I ripped through a 7min 20sec 4K gaming video in 8mins 8 secs without blinking. Super fast and effective with
having the video card doing most of the work. During the encoding, video card temp hit 140F/60.0C
Important in video editing to have both good CPU and good Video card. My thought for the day
I even tested what hard drive works best. M.2 drive, SSD, or standard hard drive. No difference in
the total time to process a 4K video. Which I thought M.2 drives would make a difference, but no.
Using the 4K video, I tracked “everything” Temps, usage, time, settings. Everything you need to know
to upload 4K gaming video using PowerDirector 14 and BandiCam game recorder.
CPU usage 25%
Total RAM under 7GB
PowerDirector exe actual RAM usage is 2.2GB of the total 7GB
CPU temps
M.2 Drive temps
Nvidia 980 Temsp
Game recording settings
Power Director 14 settings
Encoding selections. I jammed all the information in the above screen awhile back
This was my final results of the 7min 20 sec 4K gaming video.
But…..to view as 4K, you need a 4K monitor
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJJzFV5cdko
nvidia gpu’s cuda cores can be used for encoding but with the budget OP has , is not enough both for powerful cpu and gpu.
if software uses %100 of cpu , it is a good thing , it means the cpu is fully utilized and its all power is harnessed. you havent told whats duration when you do same encoding with only cpu , it is 8 min 8 secs with gpu acceleration but if you do exactly same encoding with solely cpu , i bet it would be faster , can you try it ?
another thing to ask , would it be any quality difference between encoded video with solely cpu and the one encoded with gpu acceleration ? answer to this should be “no” but i m asking to be sure so OP can be sure also.
as for you question about drives , they only increase performance when cpu is not fully utilized , for example if your cpu was at %80 during encoding , it can mean that your cpu can do better but ssd is not able to provide enough data per sec. then putting another ssd with better write/read speed will increase cpu usage and decrease the duration. if your cpu is %100 then thats it , not only for encoding but everything else. you need to upgrade cpu first than other parts in order to have performance increase since all other hardware providing enough output to push cpu to %100.
Id presume a video card would be needed. I havnt done encoding before did mine bitcoins for a week or so (attempted to)… More or less the CPU could only do like 10% of the mining the Vid card could and I presume it would be the same principle with encoding.
no , it is different . gpu is far more powerful for bitcoin mining. it can use shader units(cuda core for nvidia) like cores , not exactly same but similar. so tooth’s gpu has 2048 shader units. when applied for bitcoin mining , cpu will work with 8 very powerful cores compared to gpu’s 2048 cores where each work like small bee bitcoin mining is gpu thing , even the most powerful cpu probably wont be able to beat a mid range gpu.
nvidia gpu's cuda cores can be used for encoding but with the budget OP has , is not enough both for powerful cpu and gpu.
if software uses %100 of cpu , it is a good thing , it means the cpu is fully utilized and its all power is harnessed. you havent told whats duration when you do same encoding with only cpu , it is 8 min 8 secs with gpu acceleration but if you do exactly same encoding with solely cpu , i bet it would be faster , can you try it ?
Same exact test without video encoding hardware: CPU-11:31mins , GPU-8:08mins
CPU temp mostly under 100F, no change really. GPU temp 93F vs 140F because we are not fully using video card. PowerDirector 14 exe using 3.9GB vs 2.2GB, so RAM is higher.
another thing to ask , would it be any quality difference between encoded video with solely cpu and the one encoded with gpu acceleration ? answer to this should be "no" but i m asking to be sure so OP can be sure also.
as for you question about drives , they only increase performance when cpu is not fully utilized , for example if your cpu was at %80 during encoding , it can mean that your cpu can do better but ssd is not able to provide enough data per sec. then putting another ssd with better write/read speed will increase cpu usage and decrease the duration. if your cpu is %100 then thats it , not only for encoding but everything else. you need to upgrade cpu first than other parts in order to have performance increase since all other hardware providing enough output to push cpu to %100.
Interesting, I looked it up but all I could find was an email adress.
ah , if you know about these things can you help those guys who are trying to rebuild the whole textures of mm6 they have been trying it for the last 5 years
Just go maplins or pcworld and buy new system tower or bits build and cheaper building with current prices going down as I did
Yea but all I am asking is what people would shyest to use. As on another site I have 4 similar builds for the price
i forgot writing back but i talked with a friend who is good at these things to find answers. the result is complicated. while cpu is better at encoding , gpu is better at image processing and 3d rendering since it is specialized for it. with the right optimization the software has , it just works like bitcoin mining mentioned above and surpasses the cpu with its excessive amount of cores in low power. the thing is , your friend’s software list includes both type of these software. for encoding and image processing. since a cpu works like a calculator , it can calculate and process anything where there is no task it can not handle. it is just on some software such as photoshop gpu performs better. so it is up to your friend’s choice
either you will downgrade cpu to i5 and add a mid level gpu or will buy a pc similar to i did without gpu but a very strong cpu and can buy an affordable and efficient gpu such as gtx960 a few months later. i would prefer the second one since the cpu will serve him for a very long time. ofc there is a third option where he raises his budget a little and buys gtx960 along with the i7.