Installing Linux

July 31st, 2016

I plan to do this (I have Vista already installed) soon. I found an article here  http://apcmacom/how_to_dualboot_vista_with_linux_vista_installed_first.htm that covers it but I have one question:
If I follow that article will I lose the files/games/applications/etc. on the Vista partition?
If so, who knows how to install Linux (Ubuntu 8.04) as a dual-boot safely and easily?

Answer #1
If I follow that article will I lose the files/games/applications/etc. on the Vista partition?
Counting that the partition resizing goes without a problem (if it doesn’t, you’ll get in trouble) and that you have enough free space to create a second partition, no you won’t loose any information.
Ideally you shouldn’t repartition the drive, as you may cause some damage on the partition\allocation tables. You should backup everything on that partition, delete it and create two new partitions from it – reinstall Windows Vista and skip that part of the tutorial.
Anyway, if you do decide to resize the partition make sure you backup everything on it. Creating an image of the hard-drive wouldn’t be a bad idea at this point (using Norton Ghost for example).
And before you do resize the partition, make sure you preform a defrag on the partition (this is absolutely critical.
But if everything works as it should, you won’t loose any information…
If so, who knows how to install Linux (Ubuntu 8.04) as a dual-boot safely and easily?
Ubuntu uses a boot loader to give you the ability of choosing either entering Windows Vista or Ubuntu at system boot. The main concern you should have is to make sure that the bootloader (GRUB in this case) is correctly installed.
If it isn’t the computer won’t boot, as the MBR will be faulty. You can always correct the situation by reinstalling GRUB or repairing it with a Windows CD (through the recovery console – fixmbr).
Any other problem you might experience should be easily fixed (including if the Windows Vista partition isn’t detected by GRUB).
I don’t want to transmit you the idea that is a complicated problem (it really isn’t). 99% of the times, you will not have any problem installing a dual-boot system like the on you want: everything will run smoothly and with no problem at all.
I’m just warning you for those 1% of the times, when something does happen.
Also, let me be the first to welcome you to the amazing world of Open Source!
Answer #2
Thanks. Somebody mentioned backing my hard drive up and deleting the partitions, but the simple fact is I don’t have anything large enough to store the data on whilst uninstalling/reinstalling the two OS.
I defragged last night and I’ll partition/install today. Thanks for the help but one last question:
If I later want to upgrade to Ubuntu 8.10 can I just install it over the top of 8.04?
Answer #3
why dual boot? use vmware
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Answer #4
VMware just complicates things. I tried it, didn’t like it
Answer #5
how does it complicate things? lol dual booting is so 1990s. Being able to run two diffrent os’s at the exact same times on one pc is dope. Vmware is one of the easiest programs i have ever used if you cant use vmware properly i would advise not even attempting to use any *nix distros
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Answer #6
I do not like to use VMware I do not like the tunnels it makes it a mess for me much easier to just duel boot. Also OP just run the install CDs/DVD and it comes with it’s own partition software(most distros do) just follow the prompts.
Answer #7
but you have to use either one or the other and keep booting in and out
if i was going to use one pc for more then one os i would go vmware or just buy a new pc to run your other os. Also explain how it makes a mess exactly? I have been using it for years and have never had a issue with it. G
Answer #8
I told you I do not like tunnels added it’s a mess when using a lan.
Also no matter how much you cheerlead for VMware it will not change my mind on it, I too have used it for years.
Duel booting is not bad, it’s just like VMware you only run it up when you need it.
Answer #9
While using Vmware you will be sharing your computer resources between two operating systems. While visualizing, the “virtual” graphic won’t be able to run various 3D games\applications, as it will not have all the functionalities that your “real” graphic cards permit on the host OS.
Two good reasons to why not create a virtual machine. Each case is a case, to consider dual-boot “so 1990” is kind of… false.
Anyway, on-topic again: upgrading the OS from 8.04 to 8.10 can be made within the operating system. If you need a guide, go to:
http://www.howtoforge.com/how-to-upgrade-ubuntu-8.04-to-ubuntu-8.10-desktop-and-server
Good luck!
Answer #10
I have never had one problem with it myself. No graphical issues or resources but yes if you have a pc from say 2000 with old specs then ya a dual boot maybe better but i dont use old pcs. Also if your going to install Ubuntu make sure you get the live cd if your new to nix
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Answer #11
I tried VMware a couple of months ago and just couldn’t get used to it. Was very artificial and I didn’t like it. The system is newish, running Vista w/ 4gig ram, geforce 8800 and dualcore @ 2.5ghz (can’t remember which processor off the top of my head).
Yeah, thanks for the help guys!
Answer #12
Want an easy to understand example? Do you have a DirectX 10 compatible graphic card?
If so, create a virtual running Windows Vista and try to play any DirectX 10 game…
Answer #13
Want an easy to understand example? Do you have a DirectX 10 compatible graphic card?
If so, create a virtual running Windows Vista and try to play any DirectX 10 game...

he is going to be playing directx 10 games on ubuntu? nix distros arent really designed to play games on them reguardless of weather your dual booting or using a virtual but to each its own but i would just like to say you might wanna try vmware alittle bit longer cause maybe you could get use to it and save the hassle of having to boot back and forth to diffrent os’s but just trying to help with my experience cause i run alot of nix distro’s not just one along side my vista “main os”
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Answer #14
I was giving you a simple example.
Vmware does not fully support OpenGL either.
There are more disadvantages, the one I gave was just an example. I can give you more: for example, there’s no direct support to firewire, under VMware. Each virtual machine as a limit of using 2 processor cores.
Have you tried to create a Vmware virtual machine within a *nix system? It uses the vesa as the virtual graphic card, no matter if you have a great graphic card…
These are just some issues I could remember right now.
please make notice that I’m not underestimating the visualization technology. No doubt it’s a great leap forward (especially for enterprise focused solutions) and no doubt that it’s the future (once again, this can be even more noticed on a non-domestic environment). I’m just trying to make a point: sure virtualization is great, but it just may not be the ideal solution for everyone.
Answer #15
I personally use vista as a main os and run many nix distros/ osx using vmware so no i dont think i have made a vm inside a nix os but neither will he.
Answer #16
I may try VMware again actually, turns out Dell partition your hard drive before selling it to you.
Now i have to work out which partition is unnecessary *sigh*
Answer #17
I may try VMware again actually, turns out Dell partition your hard drive before selling it to you.
Now i have to work out which partition is unnecessary *sigh*

most companies partition a recovery drive for you which is a good thing to keep if that is what it is
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