Identical image-copying of data-DVD
August 1st, 2016
I use ImgBurn as my default DVD/CD burning software. It is FREE and can make identical (byte for byte) copy.
http://www.imgburn.com/
Have fun
it sounds like there’s an .EXE file that makes it run, that may need to be cracked. the autorun file should point to it. if you get it to copy correctly, PLEASE post it! I’m sure many will appreciate that!. IF it seems it can’t be copied, then a copy of all the files posted would be appreciated, since it can still be cracked!. can those .PDF files be opened with Adobe .PDF reader?
Have you tried opening the pdf files without using their own viewer?
Can you post a pdf file here to see if we can remove any encryptions?
My recommendation is:
CloneCD
I used it at least 100 times to clone original games, so I think it should help you too.
Cheers
ImgBurn is a no-go. I dont even get the menu I did with a direct burn. I did however get a new error stating its a SecuRom encryption – if that says anything. it sounds like there's an .EXE file that makes it run, that may need to be cracked. the autorun file should point to it. if you get it to copy correctly, PLEASE post it! I'm sure many will appreciate that!. IF it seems it can't be copied, then a copy of all the files posted would be appreciated, since it can still be cracked!. can those .PDF files be opened with Adobe .PDF reader?
Odd, but none that I can find. There is an application icon, but no .exe that I can find (and I have the hidden files showing as well).
Have you tried opening the pdf files without using their own viewer?
Can you post a pdf file here to see if we can remove any encryptions?
I wish I could – if I could I’d make my own disc and be done. There is several folders full of the pdf files, but when you attempt to open one, it immediately takes you to Adobe’s site – no message or error….just to their site. ?! Will CloneCD work on DVD’s? I tried CloneDVD and it wouldn’t recognize a straight data DVD.
That’s why I said, CloneCD, not CloneDVD.
But look, you have nothing to lose to try the program, right.
Edit
As you said coonedvd is more for movies…
how big of a disk is this that you can upload? Alcohol 120% can make exact copy of the original if you want me to give this a try?
It sounds a bit like many games where you have to insert the original CD/DVD.
“No CD” cracks are written for these…but they only apply to a particular game..
You could try Slysoft game jackal…Might stop you having to insert the CD every time..
http://www.google.com?t=10684581&highlight=
I have no problem uploading it…..however its 5+ GB. DL fail$ add up quick.
I found an old forum posting from 2008 (this software is 2007) that spoke of using Blindwrite to circumvent SecuRom encryption. Going to try that next.
Tried Blindwrite – goes through the menu then says to “insert the original disc, not the backup”. It then opens Acrobat and I get a window saying “menue.pdf is password protected. Please enter password.” regardless what I enter it disappears but wont open anything. I’m out of ideas.
try doing an alternate click on autorun, and select “open with wordpad” notepad should work too. and see what file is listed in there.
If its about 6 years old you may be able to use DVD Shrink, not used it in years so don’t know if they’ve updated it or if you’ll need an older version.
ImgBurn is a no-go. I dont even get the menu I did with a direct burn. I did however get a new error stating its a SecuRom encryption - if that says anything.
That is the reason…
SecuROM is a CD/DVD copy protection product, most often used for computer games, developed by Sony DADC. SecuROM aims to resist home media duplication devices, professional duplicators, and reverse engineering attempts. The newest versions (v4 and up) prevent 1:1 CD-R copies from being made. Certain programs can circumvent its protection, but can�t duplicate it. The use of SecuROM is somewhat controversial. It installs a shell extension that prevents Windows Explorer from deleting 16-bit executables.
http://www.encrypt.ro/cd-encryption/cd-protection-securom.html
Also read the comments here … they have managed to copy:
http://forum.videohelp.com/threads/356242-Can-t-backup-my-expensive-DVD
DVD Fab 9 is a good one and i have been using it for quite a while for copying dvd’s
ImgBurn is a no-go. I dont even get the menu I did with a direct burn. I did however get a new error stating its a SecuRom encryption - if that says anything. it sounds like there's an .EXE file that makes it run, that may need to be cracked. the autorun file should point to it. if you get it to copy correctly, PLEASE post it! I'm sure many will appreciate that!. IF it seems it can't be copied, then a copy of all the files posted would be appreciated, since it can still be cracked!. can those .PDF files be opened with Adobe .PDF reader?
Odd, but none that I can find. There is an application icon, but no .exe that I can find (and I have the hidden files showing as well).
Have you tried opening the pdf files without using their own viewer?
Can you post a pdf file here to see if we can remove any encryptions?
I wish I could - if I could I'd make my own disc and be done. There is several folders full of the pdf files, but when you attempt to open one, it immediately takes you to Adobe's site - no message or error....just to their site. ?! Will CloneCD work on DVD's? I tried CloneDVD and it wouldn't recognize a straight data DVD.
Ok.. now open the folder, don’t open the pdf, copy it to your hard drive (pick a smallish one).
Now upload that to wikisend and post the url here for us to look at it.
You might end up with pdf file you can open in foxit or some-such, if we can remove any protections (no gaurantee, be we need to se the pdf to work on it).
NOT the whole disc, just a smaller one of the files.
it’s possible that the acrobat on the disk is a special protected version, and the .DLLs are part of that. DVD readers/writers can read more tracks than they can write, which makes protected CD/DVDs possible.
try doing an alternate click on autorun, and select "open with wordpad" notepad should work too. and see what file is listed in there.
It was a notepad file to begin with – used wordpad and the same listing appears. If its about 6 years old you may be able to use DVD Shrink, not used it in years so don't know if they've updated it or if you'll need an older version.
Tried that too. Makes a great copy but after the menu, it asks for the original disc. Also read the comments here ... they have managed to copy:
http://forum.videohelp.com/threads/356242-Can-t-backup-my-expensive-DVD
Thanks for this – I’ve been hitting the older forums/blogs on this…..made little progress but will read up today. Ok.. now open the folder, don't open the pdf, copy it to your hard drive (pick a smallish one).
Now upload that to wikisend and post the url here for us to look at it.
You might end up with pdf file you can open in foxit or some-such, if we can remove any protections (no gaurantee, be we need to se the pdf to work on it).
NOT the whole disc, just a smaller one of the files.
This is a smaller pdf folder inside the ‘data’ folder….titled “NAV”. I believe its connected with the menu. There is another that is 4.6MB if you need another. The others are 2-4GB. http://rg.to/file/0798850fab8aee9798345040483bc5ca/Nav.rar.html
THANKS!!!
that URL gives me a .PDF renamed as a RAR. 2k in size. renamed to NAV.PDF it works but I get value of massachusetts drug rehabthe second line is a link to drug rehab hospitals in ma.
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Ok, sorry for whatever that wikisend thing was……try this one:
http://rg.to/file/0798850fab8aee9798345040483bc5ca/Nav.rar.html
According to my tools, it uses
ACTI:SecHandler 40-bit encrytpion version 1.0.. unsupported.
Damn..
You might need to talk to someone here who does reverse engineering and see if they can find a password hidden in the main executable program on the disc..
Thanks for checking it out. I know its so ‘over-encrypted’ that if I use the original disc long enough, it will error out and I have to reboot to open it again. A few years ago I had a similar issue with a trading program and a dongle….I used an emulator program while it ran and it logged the routine to make a simple add-on to use instead of the dongle. Wonder if anything could be done thataways?
this here should be able to open it quickly. see if anyone posted the cracked version here. http://www.elcomsoft.com/edpr.html
Thanks radios – I found it and tried it out…..got this error when I tried to open it:
This document was created with ‘ACTI:SecHandler 40-bit security v.1’ encryption handler. This protection method is not supported.
Well….that does tell a bit more about it. There is a second disc like this one I would buy if there was a way to decrypt it. Now to start looking for info on ACTI.
I think you might have more luck turning your attention from the PDFs to the program the disc uses to access them.
It has to pass a password to the pdf some where – a debugger/disassembler should help you find that, find where it does the file open and put a breakpoint there then see whan it’s passing from memory to the pdf to show the password.
Well, I can only point you to one team:
http://team-rept.com/board2/
I know you need to register, but it is possible they will be able to help you.
Cheers
Thanks Tex…..just sent a registration request. I’m at the point of having it reverse engineered or going back to lugging my 50 paper-printed manuals around – in the long run that might be easier. lol
I did try another pdf decrypter/password remover program and all it would do is say “the pdf file selected is not a normal pdf file”. Whats funny is this bunch got encryption happy on 40 yr old automotive electrical schematics (and lost the whole project as a result). Cant say it’d be a threat to national security – or to the company that used to make them – or to the 8 or 10 people who might still have use for it. Good lord.
Thanks Tex.....just sent a registration request. I'm at the point of having it reverse engineered or going back to lugging my 50 paper-printed manuals around - in the long run that might be easier. lolif you post any .EXE and .DLL files on the disc, I may be able to fix it. I suspect the version of acrobat on the disc may be the culprit, if that’s the only .EXE file there. BTW, do those .PDFs only open with that old version of acrobat even with the disc inserted and the program NOT running? that would be the clue. BTW, ACTI does not seem to exist. I spent a long time searching for it, to no avail. possibly, that’s an error code for the program. the name of the copy protection needs to be found.
I did try another pdf decrypter/password remover program and all it would do is say "the pdf file selected is not a normal pdf file". Whats funny is this bunch got encryption happy on 40 yr old automotive electrical schematics (and lost the whole project as a result). Cant say it'd be a threat to national security - or to the company that used to make them - or to the 8 or 10 people who might still have use for it. Good lord.
Radios – it might even be a specially modified version of Acrobat..
I second the request to post any executables here – it can’t harm, and might help.
Rather than trying to back it up this way, try making an image with it that you can mount in a virtual drive, I generally use Virtual CD
http://virtualcd-online.com
You could also give Easy CD-DA Extractor a try.
yes … i would have tried DVD Fab … …
I did try DVD fab – same results. Will load the menu and look like its going to take, then error out about installing the original disc. When I ran it on a virtual drive, it loaded very slow and then I got “please insert the original disc and not a backup” (only time ‘backup’ ever appears in an error). Here is everything except for the data/pdf files: http://rg.to/file/65b88e4c5302656b68c9c07439e2c296/ExeFiles.rar.html
THANKS VERY MUCH for all the help!
I got the menu to decrypt, but it shows a blank page.
I have to wait an hour to re-download the other pdf files, rapidgator sucks balls!
I’m not 100% sure it’s the correct password – it was SO lamely hidden.. “Ducky” – Pdf password removed said it “succeeded”.. I’ll post more when i have the other pdf files.
Edit – false positive.. my dumb password remover said it worked.. It hadn’t
But then it said it worked with “wayker” as a password – stupid thing!
I can open the “decypted” pdfs now, but they are blank with yellow boxes very so often, and some pages have blank text boxes.. it’s a start.. maybe a wrong track though.
Edited edity edit – I’ve tried about 6 different password removers – they either choke on the ACTI part or they say success when they didn’t.
I think you’re going to have to see if someone can reverse engineer the visual basic 6 exe program there. There are some VB decompilers.
I noticed it was Volvo..
Did it only do volvos or a lot of makers cars?
Have you tried finding similar cracked stuff, like this:
http://www.google.com?t=19533538&highlight=
http://www.google.com?t=18487126&highlight=
VOLVO VIDA 2013A Multilingual
Release Info
VOLVO VIDA 2013A Multilingual | 7.47 GB
Description: The program for the diagnosis, finding spare parts, contains step by step instructions to repair cars.
no pills.
laid out in order to find as the judges (politely ask Mr. SergVolvo).
Extras. information:
System requirements:
* Windows XP Professional SP3, Vista Buisness SP1, Windows 7 is not less Professional, running SQL Server.
* Does not work with antivirus and firewall.
* Memory must be at least 3 GB.
* Video resolution of at least 1280 * 800.
* 20G minimum free space on the hard drive on your C
* Run by the browser IE8, 9
These were the original shop manuals (much of it has been discarded with ‘new’ versions – although its still more than relevant). I restore and rewire these old jalopies – the new shops dont know how to actually fix anything…..just change parts. And if the car doesn’t plug into a PC to tell them what part to change, they’re not interested (but will TRY to fix it by throwing enough of your money at it). lol
VIDA is the NEW-NEW version of the shop manuals….VADIS was an older version and closer to what I use, although its finnicky with what OS and SP you use (I saved a version of XP SP1 on an old laptop just to run it – apparently there is some dll in SP2+ that disables illustrations). Go figure. But the distributor of these also did older Benz’s – and had the same results. I actually found this same quandary on a couple of classic MB sites – but the same outcome. I dont think they even pursued it as far as I have. I can upload a couple of actual pdf files if you want. Those uploaded may have been only parts of a menu – so not sure how complete “pages” they would be. Thanks again for messing with it.
I don’t think there’s much point with the PDFs for me, maybe others.. I tried unlocking them, the password tool i use said it had worked and the menus were blank.
I suspect maybe a modified self-made encryption system, an edited adobe reader to open them.
I still suggest you get someone to look at the programs that open the pdf – they have to pass the password somewhere.
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I found VADIS but one was Russian, the other Sewdish